Tourney Chances

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I'm actually hoping for a 12-16 seed. This team only plays against big time opponents. The only chance this team has is if they can somehow play NC, Duke, Ken, etc the entire tournament.
 

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More than seed, there are certain matchups that I'd want to avoid. Don't want a Baylor, for example. Or a West Virginia.

I don't follow other conferences enough to know which other teams are in the avoid category.
Any team that has a pulse of an interior game is a bad matchup for ISU right now because of the terrible time ISU is having defending the interior and rebounding, and that's probably going to be the vast majority of teams in the top 8 seeds.

ISU is leading the conference in scoring and blowing the conference away in FG%...yet sitting in sixth place because they just can't stop anybody. It's crazy. Greenberg said it the other night (and so have many others)...defense dances. ISU is one and done in the tourney unless they can find some way to make the defense at least serviceable over the next few games.
 

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Any team that has a pulse of an interior game is a bad matchup for ISU right now because of the terrible time ISU is having defending the interior and rebounding, and that's probably going to be the vast majority of teams in the top 8 seeds.

ISU is leading the conference in scoring and blowing the conference away in FG%...yet sitting in sixth place because they just can't stop anybody. It's crazy. Greenberg said it the other night (and so have many others)...defense dances. ISU is one and done in the tourney unless they can find some way to make the defense at least serviceable over the next few games.

That's hyperbole BS. It could happen, but expecting us to lose in the first round is just dumb. We will be facing a 12/13 seed that has its own set of deficiencies.
 

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Purdue is an avoid example. Not totally sold how good they are. While teams like Maryland and Iowa can matchup with their length down low, the Purdue guard play is nothing special. But even tho we'd take that matchup in the backcourt, Hammonds and Swanigan would eat us alive inside.

They've got to be able to defend us too. Can those two bruises defend Niang and Burton on the perimiter? That matchup reminds me of Notre Dame a few years back. Bring on the slow footed BIG team.
 

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It is wide open. With our style and battle-tested Big 12 schedule, we can compete with anybody.

Normally I would agree with you. But unless we get an effective, productive McKay to swallow up rebounds and help in defense, I wouldn't pick us against anybody. And that includes the first round. I think we'll know a lot more about our team as to how we compete at WV and KU. Not referring to wins, but rather if we have the ability to defend and rebound to keep us in those games. Poor rebounding makes it (almost) impossible to advance in the NCAA tournament, imo.
 

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That's hyperbole BS. It could happen, but expecting us to lose in the first round is just dumb. We will be facing a 12/13 seed that has its own set of deficiencies.

If ISU is playing a 12/13 seed in the first round, it means that they will have improved their defense from the way it has been the last 3 or so games.
 

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If ISU is playing a 12/13 seed in the first round, it means that they will have improved their defense from the way it has been the last 3 or so games.

Fair enough. Win out at home against three bad teams and they will be a 5 seed.
 

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you are not going to beat KU in Lawrence.....

I know KU will be heavily favored and it'll be played in a phog of noise and favorable whistles, but after watching K-boo get decimated by an average OSU, I wouldn't bet the wheat farm.
 

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How can you come on here and start quoting all this stuff. Blasphemy I say. :jimlad:

I started noticing this a few weeks ago, and it's held true since. On one hand, all of these close losses are infuriating. Clearly this team needs to figure out how to consistently win close games, or Georges will once again be watching the NCAA tournament from his couch.

On the other hand, virtually any college team, even the good ones, has at least one or two games where they play like crap from start to finish (usually on the road). The only ISU exceptions to that general rule were the 2000 Elite Eight team and now this year's team. In spite of all the injuries and the strife and sub-par defensive performances, this short handed team has been in every single game, including every single road game in what is by far the toughest conference in the nation. (And yes, Morgantown and Lawrence still await.)

By my rough count, this year's team is 7-8 in close games. But a dismal 3-6 in the last 9 close games, with most of those six losses on the road (3 in overtime).

So overall we've got a team that goes toe to toe with pretty much any other team in the country, even on the road. They've been losing most of the recent road games, but notably there won't be any road games in March Madness. I'd imagine the vast majority of college b'ball fans would trade places with our fan base in a heartbeat.
 

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It's too tough to tell right now because nobody has come out this year as a truly dominant team. Right now the only thing that bothers me is we are probably sitting at a 5 or 6 seed, and that 5-12 matchup is always rough since 12's are usually the best non P5 conference winners or teams that slid in to the bubble and are hot at the right time and 11 seeds are usually solid P5 programs. I don't know if a 3 seed is possible anymore, but if we pull off wins @WVU and @KU and win at least two games in the conference tourney, it just might happen. This team is definitely capable of doing just that, they just need to hit their stride now and start clicking on all cylinders and can close out a game.
ISU is still probably a 4 seed right now.
 

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Just win the 1st game and see what happens. A bad UCLA team made the Sweet 16 last year because we **** the bed.

ISU is going to be a team that a ~12 will be reasonably happy to draw cause we're beatable, but a high seed is going to be unhappy with cause we'll be one of the most dangerous teams at our middling seed.
 

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I know KU will be heavily favored and it'll be played in a phog of noise and favorable whistles, but after watching K-boo get decimated by an average OSU, I wouldn't bet the wheat farm.

uh KU just beat OSU by 27
 

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UCONN is a prime example of why the regular season is off the table once March rolls around.
 

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UCONN is a prime example of why the regular season is off the table once March rolls around.

If ISU can shoot as well as UConn did in that tourney (both from field and line), that can help fuel an unexpected run.

Don't forget, though, UConn, barely survived St. Joseph's in the first round – it can be razor-thin.
 

jimlahey

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Uh....dude, lay off the weed.
Less then a month ago, KU got hosed by 19 vs OSU. I'm just saying they can be beat.
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

and KU won at OU and TT.....something ISU didn't do. ISU has lost twice at home already....I'm sure you will predict an ISU win in Lawrence and it won't happen.
 

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I know KU will be heavily favored and it'll be played in a phog of noise and favorable whistles, but after watching K-boo get decimated by an average OSU, I wouldn't bet the wheat farm.

This is the least intimidating KU team I've seen in a while. Just think about what they usually have. For the past 3 years they've had legit one and done guard/combo and a dominant defensive big in the middle and in the case of Embiid a dominant defensive and offensive big to go along with the one and done guard/combo two years ago.