Last years team vs this years
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A couple people have said this, and I don't think I agree. They are still scoring tons of points, moving the ball around great, tons of oops to McKay & Nader, lots of 3s. Maybe the "less exciting" part is they drive the lane more for layups? But that's a good thing, really.
I guess I don't see it as less exciting. Maybe it's the fact the offense isn't as far ahead of the defense in a relative sense, as it was in the past. Maybe we are all just spoiled.
Agreed. Nader's a good player for us this year but he's not Hogue.
I'm curious on Burton for this reason too :yes:
So far, he's been much better. Hogue was basically playing as a 3 last season. Nader is way more dynamic on the offensive end, and when he's focused, his defense can be very good.
No he isn't Hogue defensively though what Abdel adds overall size, shot, and ball handeling he is out playing what DH gave last year. Not a knock against Hogue he was very good last year but Nader has raised the level of ISU's SF position.
Burton is a wild card, if he contributes at Hogue's last year level, the ceiling of the team definetly goes up. Deonte does have the ability to contribute some of Naders off. game too. DB will be able to take his time and gain confidence since he won't be required to start once eligible, unlike McKay. I don't see a bumpy transition as he gets acclimated.
McKay didn't start until the second game of February, his 13th game in an ISU uniform.
I don't know what you of these people are smoking.. I loved hogue his Junior year. He had his moments his senior year but I don't think he played any near to the level he playing at the end of his junior year. I thought he was somewhat of a disappointment in his last year. I'll take this years Nader over last years Hogue any day.
Agreed. Hogue's best asset was his tenacity on the glass. 4 fewer rebounds per game last season was a huge dropoff. He was able to shoot the ball well from outside, but that's not where we needed him.
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But there are more defensive possessions, so I'd think that would even out. I'd attribute the change to Coach Prohm's emphasis on defense.
Oh I think Nader's a better ball player. I just don't think he'll average as many rebounds as Hogue.
Now if I'm in a bar fight, I'll probably pick Hogue to back me up :twitcy:
Hogue only averaged 4.9 reb/gm last season. That's not a bar that's out of bounds for Nader.
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Ya 5 rebounds a game sucks for a 6'6'' 3 man going against 6'10'' chumps. Rolling my eyes as hard as possible right now.
That may be true, but the fact is his rebounding production dropped off dramatically (due likely in part to addition of McKay) between his junior/senior year and 5 boards a game ia not hard to replace with Nader. Not saying Hogue sucks or didn't outperform expectations at his size, but it is what it is...
Not that I'm expecting it to continue in conference play but right now Thomas is picking up those 5 boards a game we lost when Dustin left.
I might get blasted for this, but I think Prohm might be a better coach than Fred. He isn't as dreamy though.
