Next coach options?

Clonefan32

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I mean, if JP wants to keep him then fine. But quit acting like we should give a **** about the football program. If you keep CPR, and you say the last 3 years are acceptable, then quit throwing money in the program. Quit building facilities. Just pull a Kansas and forget the program exists.
 

norcalcy

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CPR isn't going anywhere.

From December 2014. If you think what you've seen through 11 games is a turnaround, I don't know what you've been watching.
The Cyclone football team finished the 2014 season with just two wins. Leath says coach Paul Rhoads understands “it’s a businessâ€￾ and a turn-around is expected next season.
“I’d like to get our football program where it needs to be, which is representative of a first-class university. We’re not there. The last two seasons were clearly disappointing,â€￾ Leath says. “As to Paul’s future, I can’t predict that. He knows, (ISU athletics director Jamie Pollard) knows that we want a first-class, winning program and that’s where we’ve got to be and hopefully he’s the guy to get us there, but either way, we’ve got to get there.â€￾
 

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Unfortunately, there are several much bigger name programs out there looking for new coaches this next season. Southern California, South Carolina, Missouri, Virginia Tech, Miami, Maryland, Central Florida, and Illinois.

I think in prestige, Central Florida and Illinois might be lateral to Iowa State, if not slightly higher.
 

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The problem is there are going to be maybe a record number of better job openings that are better than ISU.
Though I agree with this statement, I think that opening up that checkbook will draw in some of those coaches (money talks), but then there is the payoff amount that CPR is owed.

Just a bad, bad situation
 

Clonefan32

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Though I agree with this statement, I think that opening up that checkbook will draw in some of those coaches (money talks), but then there is the payoff amount that CPR is owed.

Just a bad, bad situation

I honestly have no clue if firing CPR will lead to any better results. I don't know if we can attract a quality candidate. But I don't care. You just can't keep up with this. You cannot consider any thing short of the 2011 OSU win a success. It's all been bad.
 

oldwiseman

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There won't be a single name we've heard of who will be interested.

After watching how long of a leash CPR has been given, a job at ISU has shown to provide some job stability with reasonable expectations. Look at some of these other programs where you get fired for winning 9 games. I'm sure less pressure and realistic expectations are enough to create some interest in some decent prospects. If you win, you are a hero. If you lose, they blame it on being at ISU. Not a bad gig if you ask me.
 

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This is going to be Pollard's last major hire here. He's earned the right to hire for football IMO, but if it fails he will be gone with whomever it is when he goes. SO he needs to do this right.

First, he needs another $3 million a year for football just to get in the door with the kind of coach that can make the difference, and probably more than that. We will need to start selling beer in JTS to do that.

Second, he will need to promise whomever that he will be allowed a top ten budget for assistants and recruiting.

If he hires a middling MAC coach or coordinator, I think he is admitting the problem is too big to ever solve.
 

norcalcy

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The problem is there are going to be maybe a record number of better job openings that are better than ISU.

No offense intended, but after what you just saw you don't think there is a Coach somewhere in the world who can do better? I don't care if all 50 something P5 jobs were open, there's someone out there who could come to ISU and do a better job than what's been done the last three years. Rhoads is 22 games below .500, is well below ISU's all time winning percentage. Replacing him is one of the easiest decisions anyone can make. I don't care if I've ever heard of the guy or how much it costs, there needs to be a change or ISU will prove once and for all that it really doesn't care about football.
 

Clonefan32

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Unfortunately, there are several much bigger name programs out there looking for new coaches this next season. Southern California, South Carolina, Missouri, Virginia Tech, Miami, Maryland, Central Florida, and Illinois.

I think in prestige, Central Florida and Illinois might be lateral to Iowa State, if not slightly higher.

I see your point, but I don't think we are drawing from the same coaching pool as USC, Miami, Va Tech and South Carolina. The coaches they will look at weren't ever coming here.
 

Clonefan32

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Also, I don't think the Iowa State job is as bad as some make it seem. Great fan base, really good facilities, a good conference, a decent talent pool coming back. I'm undoubtedly bias, but give me this job over Illinois, Missouri or Central Florida.
 

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I see your point, but I don't think we are drawing from the same coaching pool as USC, Miami, Va Tech and South Carolina. The coaches they will look at weren't ever coming here.

Valid point. We'd really only be competing with the likes of Illinois, Central Florida, etc. Caliber teams.
 

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We cannot reward incompetence--losing games and unnecessarily subjecting players to risk of injury. Hard working Iowans with the work record of PR would be looking for a new job. PR needs to man up and resign. Perhaps JP will follow the lead of PR and we can hit the refresh button. Players, fans, and alums should not be subjected to further misery.
 

Cloneman89

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I think Leath needs to be in on this one. JP has no clue what a P5 fb coach looks like. That looked like peewee dad coaching. Lose by failure to verify down marker against OSU - don't center the ball for your fg kicker at Toledo - failure to take a knee today. He has NO CLUE! Who is Navy's coach? Why aim low? If you want butts in seats then CPR has to go!
 

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