It's not like Iowa dominated us that much, and they're going to be the big ten west champions.... We could certainly at least put games to if not win, against Purdue Indiana Minnesota(almost beat TCU) Rutgers and Maryland
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It's not like Iowa dominated us that much, and they're going to be the big ten west champions.... We could certainly at least put games to if not win, against Purdue Indiana Minnesota(almost beat TCU) Rutgers and Maryland
Winning a national title in bball would help a lot in whatever discussions we are having, Big 10 or no.
**** this thread. We have the opportunity to play well in a good conference. If our AD would hire the right coach we would be ok.
We can never, and will never, ever, e able to recruit against teams from the south and hotbed of football. Recruiting against teams from Random Midwestern states? We have a chance!
The big 12 the last few years has consistently gotten the worst recruits and sent the least number of players to the NFL draft. The fact that we continue to say we could win eight games with Iowa's schedule is embarrassing.
It wouldn't happen.
In my opinion we need to beg and plead for admission to the big 10. Football wise, this team simply can't compete well in the big 12. You're going up against teams from the absolute hotbed of football and prospects thereof. In the big 12 there's typically what, 1-2 even conceivably winnable games a year in KU and maybe whatever other team isn't good? Think of all the winnable games we could have in the big ten... Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, usually northwestern, often Iowa and surely we being Iowa state can upset once in awhile too but.... Absolutely a better chance to win 6 games or more and make bowls each year. I know that's never the goal but for a program like Iowa State we will never win a conference(we would have equal the chance over Ohio state and Michigan as we do now, about 0) we just need to hope for bowls and at least some success. Sure maybe the big 12 is slightly better at basketball now but that can be argued too. That would maybe just mean more success for us, not competing with Kansas just being the best every year besides maybe some Michigan and Indiana contention. Not to mention the other key factors: more money, a television network rather than terrible feeding of money to Texas, a more stable conference that doesn't try stupid things like one true champion, and a naturally better feel.... Iowa fits in better culturally and competitively with a Midwest conference- being a Midwest state- than it does with the south/southwest/whatever you wanna call it, and we could have natural rivalries with Nebraska and Minnesota and of course Iowa then in conference with us.
Are you kidding me?
You really think we would lose to Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, blah blah blah. Iowa is looking like the 3rd or 4th best team in the league and we should have beaten them...
We barely were outplayed if at all by Iowa, and they're going to win their division almost certainly. Sure the big 12 may not have many go pro and missed the playoffs, but also almost sent 2 to the playoffs. The big 12 has 8 good teams of 10. I would say every big 12 team other than Isu and KU could beat everyone in the big ten except Ohio state Michigan Michigan state, perhaps close games wit Wisconsin and Nebraska. and our top few could rival and beat those teams too. Playing a big 12 schedule is far harder than playing a big 10 schedule. The big 10 has teams like Purdue Indiana Illinois Rutgers Maryland usually northwestern Minnesota, this year penn state isn't great either.... All of those games are not only easy wins for most team in the big 12 but many winnable for us, some Even certain wins for us.... Trust me I grew up mostly a Purdue fan(not anymore of course!) and we would hammer them, and even they often, even usually, make a bowl. In the big 12 there's 1 easy game, KU. That's the only game Isu can be confident in each year and we sometimes even lose that. Don't even tell me the big 12 is easier to succeed than the big 10
Right, Penn St. and Nebraska couldn't do it, but of course Iowa St. would come in and win at twice the clip. Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night I guess.
Nebraska went 9-3 their first season? We can easily easily easily easily be a Bowl team if we were big ten. We could schedule an easier non conference for one, and then you add some easy wins from the conference like the many teams I've mentioned many times in this thread you have at least 6 every year easy peasy. We could absolutely 100% do it.
Iowa State is the last p5 team the B1G would ever want.
Why do our conference teams continue to **** the bed in bowl games against other conferences? Don't tell me it doesn't matter.
Check the bowls from last year if you don't believe me. I can't post the link. Big ten did very well. Big twelve did very bad.
That is a blessing.