*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Wednesday, June 3 ***

[Jer]

I think you are right.

I think there is a name or two we aren't aware of yet and may never be aware of. Bigger names with a good P5/MW/AAC job now. They have to stay under radar if/until they are selected.

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

 

[Die4Cy]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 2m2 minutes ago
Bryce Drew, Brad Underwood, Steve Prohm among candidates to replace Hoiberg at Iowa State, interviews this weekend: http://es.pn/1FvcF0c

Whoa. JP is really going the extra mile to cover the tracks of his conspiracy to hire Otz.

 

[Beyerball]

Hornacek is the only guy I'd want over TJ. All the other guys don't do a thing for me. Prohm won't come to the Midwest from the South IMO, Drew won't want to play against his brother twice a year or possibly more.... and Underwood will always be looking to get back to KSU. Yuck. Give me TJ every day of the week over these guys.

You've got to be kidding me. I guess I see where u stand and its your opinion. Let's hope our AD doesn't concur. Underwood is 10x the coach TJ is right now as is Prohm for that matter. How can u possibly argue TJ when Prohm is at a school getting and developing kids to the NBA right now and Underwood has had tremendous success at SFA. Both run a similar offense and have far more experience.

 

[Dingus]

I bet at least one of Drew, Prohm, Underwood, and TJ will end up being a big time coach. Question is, which? And I hope it's for us.

 

[Jer]

Some of the things Mods are posting makes me really want to see the Mod thread. And not because it all smart things.

You are missing not just the Mod forum, but also the Insiders forum:wink:

 

[FarminCy]

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

Ooooohhhhhhh!!!!!! Interesting.

 

[cycloneworld]

I bet at least one of Drew, Prohm, Underwood, and TJ will end up being a big time coach. Question is, which? And I hope it's for us.

Well we picked the giant turd in the Harbaugh, Kelly, and Chizik race so we are due for a better pick, right?

 

[Bret44]

So, If Leath is pushing his weight and wants to get a big hire/move the program to greater heights, is there anyway JP leaves? Goes somewhere there isn't as much control from upper management?

 

[zmanzbo]

Thanks as always for the info Jeremy!

 

[Cyclonefanwill3]

Are the "Mod Forum" and "insider forum" on Cyclone Fanatic

 

[Stormin]

If the four names mentioned in the ESPN report are true, then to me it's a two horse race. If you want an inside hire, it's TJ. If you go outside, it's Prohm.

Underwood, Drew, and Prohm could all be good long-term, but Prohm has the added benefit of the smallest change from Hoiball for '15-'16. And you can't ignore the value of that season, not only to kickstart a new coaching tenure and boost recruiting, but to legitimately have a shot at the Final Four with the most talented ISU team maybe ever.

One thing that bothers me most about Proehm is that he lost the majority of tight ballgames he was in. Look at all the tight ballgames we play and how many we pulled out.

IMO, the 4 candidates to get interviews are not splashy hires. NONE of them. Drew, Proehm, Underwood, and Otzelberger. Not a splashy hire in the bunch.

To be perfectly honest, of those four, I would pick Otzelberger because of the way he has handled the team and then press, and the whole situation in an exemplary manner. He has basically knocked it out of the park in how he has handled everything. He has said the right things and done the right things. A Baptism by Fire and he has passed with flying colors. With no Altman and with the choices of those four coaches, I would go with Otzelberger. IMO, he is the safest choice......and could have the highest ceiling of all four of those guys. Otzelberger will get good players to come to Ames Iowa. Not sure the others can do that.

 

[Stormin]

Well we picked the giant turd in the Harbaugh, Kelly, and Chizik race so we are due for a better pick, right?

Chizik was the trendy splashy pick like people are advocating for now.

 

[NebraskaCyclone]

Ooooohhhhhhh!!!!!! Interesting.

Very interesting. I'm thinking if it's a big name from a P5 school it has to be someone successful but doesn't necessarily have the bball fanbase and enthusiasm as what ISU does, and that coach recognizes that. I'm sure there could be any number of factors, but is that not the big selling point of Cyclone hoops?

 

[Jer]

Are the "Mod Forum" and "insider forum" on Cyclone Fanatic

Of course, where else would somebody talk Cyclones? :smile:

 

[Scott34]

Another post I made behind closed doors but is very applicable to the current discussion...

Regarding the search and leaks... I was just talking to some people about that. While I absolutely think it's important for Leath to push JP out of his comfort zone - because let's be honest, all of his searches have been very limited in scope/breadth - there is a line that he can't cross of being too integrated into the actual process.

I will add that while people love what JP has done, there are a lot [redacted] that feel he's great at working the donors, building excitement, etc but can't be fully trusted to make the call on coaches. He has a narrow focus on those that he feels he has considered to lead the various programs and his mind is set from there on. Donors don't like that because they are fanatics just like everybody else and want to be excited. Leath doesn't like it because he wants to constantly push the bar higher (rightfully so).

If Leath wasn't here, we would have had TJ announced by EOD tomorrow. With Leath involved, a proper search is being conducted with input from a lot of people. As much as I think the current friction is being aired too much and hurting us, it is long overdue to be quite frank - and many people share that opinion.

I will pass along something I've heard from several key members in all of this - "JP has done more for ISU Athletics than any single individual before him, but he continues to operate like Iowa State is the little school on the prairie like when he arrived."

That sentiment speaks to the level of candidates and the money that JP has been working with, right or wrong. People don't have to like his process, but people need to love where Leath wants to take our athletic programs - much higher than even JP has envisioned.

I will admit that I haven't been a big fan of Leath since he's been here, this is one thing that I'm really happy to see him pushing Pollard to do. ISU may not be branded any higher than they are right now, which would make one think that we should be able to make a great hire this go round. We obviously don't know who will be the coach yet but will ease my mind that they did a thorough search and hired the right person.

 

[gwoodclone]

Another post I made behind closed doors but is very applicable to the current discussion...

Regarding the search and leaks... I was just talking to some people about that. While I absolutely think it's important for Leath to push JP out of his comfort zone - because let's be honest, all of his searches have been very limited in scope/breadth - there is a line that he can't cross of being too integrated into the actual process.

I will add that while people love what JP has done, there are a lot [redacted] that feel he's great at working the donors, building excitement, etc but can't be fully trusted to make the call on coaches. He has a narrow focus on those that he feels he has considered to lead the various programs and his mind is set from there on. Donors don't like that because they are fanatics just like everybody else and want to be excited. Leath doesn't like it because he wants to constantly push the bar higher (rightfully so).

If Leath wasn't here, we would have had TJ announced by EOD tomorrow. With Leath involved, a proper search is being conducted with input from a lot of people. As much as I think the current friction is being aired too much and hurting us, it is long overdue to be quite frank - and many people share that opinion.

I will pass along something I've heard from several key members in all of this - "JP has done more for ISU Athletics than any single individual before him, but he continues to operate like Iowa State is the little school on the prairie like when he arrived."

That sentiment speaks to the level of candidates and the money that JP has been working with, right or wrong. People don't have to like his process, but people need to love where Leath wants to take our athletic programs - much higher than even JP has envisioned.

Good to hear. I think that is all anyone is asking for. If TJ is the guy then that is fine, but we have options here. It would be a disservice to the program and to what Fred built not to explore them.

 

[SNEDDS3]

Is Mark Few at all on the radar?

 

[Jer]

One thing that bothers me most about Proehm is that he lost the majority of tight ballgames he was in. Look at all the tight ballgames we play and how many we pulled out.

IMO, the 4 candidates to get interviews are not splashy hires. NONE of them. Drew, Proehm, Underwood, and Otzelberger. Not a splashy hire in the bunch.

To be perfectly honest, of those four, I would pick Otzelberger because of the way he has handled the team and then press, and the whole situation in an exemplary manner. He has basically knocked it out of the park in how he has handled everything. He has said the right things and done the right things. A Baptism by Fire and he has passed with flying colors. With no Altman and with the choices of those four coaches, I would go with Otzelberger. IMO, he is the safest choice......and could have the highest ceiling of all four of those guys. Otzelberger will get good players to come to Ames Iowa. Not sure the others can do that.

Don't assume that only those 4 will interview - it's at least those 4...

 

[Beyerball]

I've picked my horse: #TeamDrew

i still think he won't voach in the same conference as his brother, but I think he will be a big time coach.

Competely agree. Bruce drew would be a fantastic hire as would Underwood and Prohm IMO.

 

[Bret44]

I am funny and bring much more to the ballgame than Pride. Why does he get the inside look and not me?