*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Wednesday, June 3 ***

[inCyteful]

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

Kewl coming from you.

If we step back, there is going to be a stud team on the floor next year and any coach with any skill set should do a Sweet 16 run, top 3 in Big XII regular season and one would have to bet in the finals of the Big XII tourney. You come in for say - 2.5 million/yr. Make that run, get a bump/extension and take your gamble at rebuilding the next couple years.

Not that these coaches would be interested but it would be a 'option' someone like them might check into - Mark Few, Larry Krystkowiak, Mike Anderson, Jamie Dixon, Mike Brey.

 

[Stormin]

You've got to be kidding me. I guess I see where u stand and its your opinion. Let's hope our AD doesn't concur. Underwood is 10x the coach TJ is right now as is Prohm for that matter. How can u possibly argue TJ when Prohm is at a school getting and developing kids to the NBA right now and Underwood has had tremendous success at SFA. Both run a similar offense and have far more experience.

I posted a link which references Otzelberger as being the #11 rated Assistant Coach in America who has never been a Head Coach according to Bilas and Goodman. Otzelberger is seen as a rising star. He is 37 years old. Hardly anyone shares you assessment and opinion of Otzelberger except for closed minded, uninformed individuals like yourself.

 

[Stormin]

Don't assume that only those 4 will interview - it's at least those 4...

Do you see Altman as a possibility?

 

[cycloneworld]

Chizik was the trendy splashy pick like people are advocating for now.

Chizik was the assistant coach with no coaching experience people are advocating for now. Both Harbaugh and Kelly had head coaching experience.

 

[Judoka]

I am funny and bring much more to the ballgame than Pride. Why does he get the inside look and not me?

More importantly...

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[Cydkar]

What's wrong with coaching against your brother? They aren't jousting.

 

[cycloneworld]

I am funny and bring much more to the ballgame than Pride. Why does he get the inside look and not me?

Pride puts the "tinfoil" in "tinfoil hat". That's why.

 

[Clone_12]

One thing that bothers me most about Proehm is that he lost the majority of tight ballgames he was in. Look at all the tight ballgames we play and how many we pulled out.

IMO, the 4 candidates to get interviews are not splashy hires. NONE of them. Drew, Proehm, Underwood, and Otzelberger. Not a splashy hire in the bunch.

To be perfectly honest, of those four, I would pick Otzelberger because of the way he has handled the team and then press, and the whole situation in an exemplary manner. He has basically knocked it out of the park in how he has handled everything. He has said the right things and done the right things. A Baptism by Fire and he has passed with flying colors. With no Altman and with the choices of those four coaches, I would go with Otzelberger. IMO, he is the safest choice......and could have the highest ceiling of all four of those guys. Otzelberger will get good players to come to Ames Iowa. Not sure the others can do that.

You are dead wrong about the thing that 'bothers you most' about Prohm.

Here's Prohm's record in games that were either decided by 5 points or less or went into overtime the last 4 years.

2014-15 (5-4)
2013-14 (4-4)
2012-13 (6-4)
2011-12 (6-1)

He's 21-13 in his career in games that were decided by 5 points or less, or went to OT. Are you just making things up now for reasons not to want him?

 

[00clone]

Do you see Altman as a possibility?

Stop pushing...he has said repeatedly that leaking certain names will take them out of contention...so if you want Altman, stop asking about him.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Another post I made behind closed doors but is very applicable to the current discussion...

Regarding the search and leaks... I was just talking to some people about that. While I absolutely think it's important for Leath to push JP out of his comfort zone - because let's be honest, all of his searches have been very limited in scope/breadth - there is a line that he can't cross of being too integrated into the actual process.

I will add that while people love what JP has done, there are a lot [redacted] that feel he's great at working the donors, building excitement, etc but can't be fully trusted to make the call on coaches. He has a narrow focus on those that he feels he has considered to lead the various programs and his mind is set from there on. Donors don't like that because they are fanatics just like everybody else and want to be excited. Leath doesn't like it because he wants to constantly push the bar higher (rightfully so).

If Leath wasn't here, we would have had TJ announced by EOD tomorrow. With Leath involved, a proper search is being conducted with input from a lot of people. As much as I think the current friction is being aired too much and hurting us, it is long overdue to be quite frank - and many people share that opinion.

I will pass along something I've heard from several key members in all of this - "JP has done more for ISU Athletics than any single individual before him, but he continues to operate like Iowa State is the little school on the prairie like when he arrived."

That sentiment speaks to the level of candidates and the money that JP has been working with, right or wrong. People don't have to like his process, but people need to love where Leath wants to take our athletic programs - much higher than even JP has envisioned.

This is the best news I have heard in awhile. JP has done wonders to this athletic department and a great face for our athletics. But his last several hires have all had some association with ISU. Only Hoiberg worked out. Seems he is "gun shy" after Chizik left him high and dry. I'm excited with the approach regarding the search firm considering we will likely be in the same spot in December.

 

[IGoState]

You are dead wrong about the thing that 'bothers you most' about Prohm.

Here's Prohm's record in games that were either decided by 5 points or less or went into overtime the last 4 years.

2014-15 (5-4)
2013-14 (4-4)
2012-13 (6-4)
2011-12 (6-1)

He's 21-13 in his career in games that we decided by 5 points or less, or went to OT.

but TJ has never lost a close game! Of course no program has had interest in letting him lose a close one either...

 

[CyFan61]

Don't assume that only those 4 will interview - it's at least those 4...

So who else?

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Didn't some random guy from Minnesota tweet out two weeks ago that Pollard was in Atlanta talking to a search firm and Hoiberg would be the Bulls coach? I seem to remember everyone attacking that guy but he sure knew what was up.

 

[Beyerball]

One thing that bothers me most about Proehm is that he lost the majority of tight ballgames he was in. Look at all the tight ballgames we play and how many we pulled out.

IMO, the 4 candidates to get interviews are not splashy hires. NONE of them. Drew, Proehm, Underwood, and Otzelberger. Not a splashy hire in the bunch.

To be perfectly honest, of those four, I would pick Otzelberger because of the way he has handled the team and then press, and the whole situation in an exemplary manner. He has basically knocked it out of the park in how he has handled everything. He has said the right things and done the right things. A Baptism by Fire and he has passed with flying colors. With no Altman and with the choices of those four coaches, I would go with Otzelberger. IMO, he is the safest choice......and could have the highest ceiling of all four of those guys. Otzelberger will get good players to come to Ames Iowa. Not sure the others can do that.

LMAO. The way he's handled the press and media? Really? That's why you would hire him? Prohm has a kid going to the NBA, possibly lottery. I can't say this enough...TJ will be the man...the HC and not recruiting for other HCs. I don't think people realize the difference honestly. Leath stepped in and slowed the train...thank god. If Leath wanted TJ this deal would have been done yesterday. That's obviously not the case.

 

[Nycclone]

How serious is the Lindsey hunter candidacy? Also any other possibilities with an nba pedigree aside from hornacek and hunter? No names necessary of course.

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

 

[isu_29]

Hope we get Brad Underwood !!!

 

[CyFan61]

You are dead wrong about the thing that 'bothers you most' about Prohm.

Here's Prohm's record in games that were either decided by 5 points or less or went into overtime the last 4 years.

2014-15 (5-4)
2013-14 (4-4)
2012-13 (6-4)
2011-12 (6-1)

He's 21-13 in his career in games that were decided by 5 points or less, or went to OT.

Just looked over the 14-15 schedule for ISU to compare to Hoiberg.

62% winning percentage for Prohm in his career in those games according to your numbers.

62% winning percentage for Hoiberg last year in games within five points (8-5).

 

[istater7]

Is Mark Few at all on the radar?

Mark Few will never leave Gonzaga. The other day I was listening to Cowherd (I think) and he said something to the effect that Few told him that he wants to stay at Gonzaga because they can win more games than power 5 schools can and his job will always be safe because of that. I'm pretty sure Few turned down a pretty big job that was recently open, was it UCLA?

 

[Beyerball]

I posted a link which references Otzelberger as being the #11 rated Assistant Coach in America who has never been a Head Coach according to Bilas and Goodman. Otzelberger is seen as a rising star. He is 37 years old. Hardly anyone shares you assessment and opinion of Otzelberger except for closed minded, uninformed individuals like yourself.

Oh please. Give it a rest already on the TJ train. Chizik was also rated one of the top assistants in the game. So in your view we are hiring the #11 assistant in the country instead of an actual head coach with real experience. Thumbs up.

 

[Bader]

Kewl coming from you.

If we step back, there is going to be a stud team on the floor next year and any coach with any skill set should do a Sweet 16 run, top 3 in Big XII regular season and one would have to bet in the finals of the Big XII tourney. You come in for say - 2.5 million/yr. Make that run, get a bump/extension and take your gamble at rebuilding the next couple years.

Not that these coaches would be interested but it would be a 'option' someone like them might check into - Mark Few, Larry Krystkowiak, Mike Anderson, Jamie Dixon, Mike Brey.

Special K would be awesome, in my opinion. Brings the NBA cache with him as a player and coach, definitely more intense of a guy than Holberg. His Utah teams have had pretty low (high?) tempos, they've all been in the 200s and 300s. But I wonder if given the caliber of athlete he would have, and could attract, if that would get him moving faster on offense.