Europe Trip Advice

ISUalum2012

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So maybe this isn't a good time to post this... or maybe it's the perfect time...

Anyway, my wife and I are considering going on a roughly 14 day trip to Europe. Rough travel itinerary would be: Fly to Paris, train to Amsterdam, fly to Prague, fly to Venice, train to Florence, train to Rome, train/boat to Hvar, Croatia. There are obviously a ton of other places I want to go, but I'm considering adding Geneva, Berlin, and/or Vienna to the trip, however, I obviously don't want to stretch things too thin.

Do any of you have any Europe travel experience and want to share your experiences, tips, destinations, etc? We're in the very early planning stages, so we're completing open to anything, except Spain... I don't know, but my wife doesn't want to go to Spain.

Thanks in advance!
 

RubyClone

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So maybe this isn't a good time to post this... or maybe it's the perfect time...

Anyway, my wife and I are considering going on a roughly 14 day trip to Europe. Rough travel itinerary would be: Fly to Paris, train to Amsterdam, fly to Prague, fly to Venice, train to Florence, train to Rome, train/boat to Hvar, Croatia. There are obviously a ton of other places I want to go, but I'm considering adding Geneva, Berlin, and/or Vienna to the trip, however, I obviously don't want to stretch things too thin.

Do any of you have any Europe travel experience and want to share your experiences, tips, destinations, etc? We're in the very early planning stages, so we're completing open to anything, except Spain... I don't know, but my wife doesn't want to go to Spain.

Thanks in advance!

Been to Rome, Florence and Venice. You could do 2-3 days in each city. Seems to me if you're heading to Croatia, you're doing those backwards...

Don't have much in the way of tips - been 15 years. But check out some Rick Steve's travel guides. A lot of good "real" world and not just touristy things to do.

And pay close attention to the train ticketing. Kinda missed that "every man for himself" factor in the cheap tix :wink:
 
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I haven't been to Croatia but I did go to Slovenia in 2010. Check out Lake Bled. Looks like it came out of a fairytale. Amsterdam was also a great stop that I would definitely go back to if given the chance and not just for the coffee!
 

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I spent a week in ROme and it wasn't enough. I could have done without a day in Florence but Venice was great.
Germany and visiting a bunch of the old castles in the countryside and learning the history of them and visiting areas my ancestors came from was fun
 

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Also if you are going to take the train keep in mind that it takes a while. We used euro budget airlines like Easy Jet and Vueling to travel between cities. Saves a lot of time and was pretty similar in terms of cost. Just be sure to research airport rules and procedures. The way airports work over there is nothing like how they work here.
 

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I haven't been to Croatia but I did go to Slovenia in 2010. Check out Lake Bled. Looks like it came out of a fairytale. Amsterdam was also a great stop that I would definitely go back to if given the chance and not just for the coffee!
I second Lake Bled. Just awesome.
 

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Always wanted to go to Prague, been to Paris, Riviera, Rome. By FAR though, my favorite was Spain. People are nice, food is great, cheaper compared to most of the rest of EU. Barcelona is the most popular and busy destination, but I could not recommend Seville/Marbella in Andalusia any stronger.
 

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In a nutshell, the itinerary you have right now is waaaay too much. You'll spend as much time traveling as you will enjoying Europe. I'd cut some things out.
 

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Oh man, those blitzkrieg trips are EXHAUSTING.

But if you insist, fly first to Amsterdam, cheaper than flying into Paris, or at least it used to be. That said, I'd skip Amsterdam, it's the armpit of Europe...not much there besides meat and cheese for breakfast, canals and the skeezy redlight district (naked women in windows...meh...buy a copy of Hustler instead).

Sounds like you want to focus on Italy, and you should. Two days in Rome would do it, one for the city (coliseum, etc) and one for the Vatican. Florence is a great city, very easy to navigate and lots to see and do there, including the leather merchants, open air markets, David, the Ponto Vecchio. Also the Boboli gardens are quite beautiful.

I would also trade Venise - stinky, crowded - for Naples. Go to Pompeii and/or Herculaneum, but first visit the museum in Naples. You will not regret it. The city itself is of lesser interest, but there are some fun things to see in the oldest part of the city.

Save Paris for last. It is the most beautiful of the lot and your wife will love you for it.

Barcelona is amazing, if you're looking for another city.

Also, skip Geneva unless you like expensive antique shops.

Don't care much for Germany, either. Every "old" thing has been rebuilt from smithereens, but they act as if nothing ever happened.

Whatever you do, have fun. Don't count the cost, you can eat Ramen when you get home.
 

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If you are on a bus and about to approach a big tunnel, make sure you stay away from creepy Italian guys.
 

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So maybe this isn't a good time to post this... or maybe it's the perfect time...

Anyway, my wife and I are considering going on a roughly 14 day trip to Europe. Rough travel itinerary would be: Fly to Paris, train to Amsterdam, fly to Prague, fly to Venice, train to Florence, train to Rome, train/boat to Hvar, Croatia. There are obviously a ton of other places I want to go, but I'm considering adding Geneva, Berlin, and/or Vienna to the trip, however, I obviously don't want to stretch things too thin.

Been to Paris, Amsterdam (and different cities in the Netherlands) and UK.
I just think your itinerary is really ambitious. You should think whether you want to spend more time on the train, checking in and out of hotels or would you want to spend more time enjoying what certain places have.I spent 4
days in Paris and that wasn't enough for me. Same thing with Amsterdam: I spent almost a week in the Netherlands and didn't feel it was enough.
 

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On the road...
Whatever you do don't leave home without these...

NLEuropeanVacation08.jpg
 

laminak

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So maybe this isn't a good time to post this... or maybe it's the perfect time...

Anyway, my wife and I are considering going on a roughly 14 day trip to Europe. Rough travel itinerary would be: Fly to Paris, train to Amsterdam, fly to Prague, fly to Venice, train to Florence, train to Rome, train/boat to Hvar, Croatia. There are obviously a ton of other places I want to go, but I'm considering adding Geneva, Berlin, and/or Vienna to the trip, however, I obviously don't want to stretch things too thin.

Do any of you have any Europe travel experience and want to share your experiences, tips, destinations, etc? We're in the very early planning stages, so we're completing open to anything, except Spain... I don't know, but my wife doesn't want to go to Spain.

Thanks in advance!

This itinerary is a huge mistake and you're cramming in WAY too much. Plan on it taking you two days to get over to Europe--definitely 1-1.5 days to travel and the remainder to be at reduced capacity due to sleeping on the plane and adjusting for time zone difference. I've been to Paris, Amsterdam, Prague, Rome, Venice, and Florence. Each will take you 2-3 days without factoring in travel. I haven't been to your other places, however each would probably cost you 2 days on average, again without travel. Finally expect one day to travel back to the US. You may even want a day off after your return to adjust back to your time zone, unpack, and take care of other tasks.

With that said, I made a similar mistake to you on my first trip to Europe. In 17 days, I saw London, Brussels, Amsterdam, Paris, Munich, Salzberg, Prague, and Franfurt. My area was more condensed than yours and I had three extra days. It felt like I spent half of my time in the train station. I didn't do some cities any justice. My other two trips were more reasonable--part of Italy in 12 days and part of Britain/Ireland in 16 days.

If you're not convinced, I'll give some pointers--Paris to Brussels to Amsterdam required a lot of reserving for train seats rather than hop-on/hop-off like many routes. Book ahead when you want to travel that route, otherwise you'll wait and lose time.

We saved some time doing sleeper cars. While not the best condition or private, at least your travel is done while you're sleeping.

If you're going by train to smaller cities, it may take a lot longer than anticipated due to hub-and-spoke train systems. You can save time with a car rental or signing up for a local day tour. I wish I did that on my first trip.

Europe attractions can be quite popular and have long lines, sometimes possibly taking hours to get in. Look ahead about getting skip the line tickets. Another option if you're going to sightsee and have limited time is a day tour. Those companies (like a viator.com) pick you up from your hotel and will cram in the sights and usually have priority access to the sights. (This really saved us in Florence and Rome.)

For other travel tips or recommendations, I'd create an account on tripadvisor.com and post to their forums for ideas. Tripadvisor, Fodor, Frommers, Rick Steves, etc are good resources to see what are the "must-dos" and other ideas.
 
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In a nutshell, the itinerary you have right now is waaaay too much. You'll spend as much time traveling as you will enjoying Europe. I'd cut some things out.

Yes..... absolutely. Way too much traveling for 2 weeks. Picked 3 or 4 stops max and enjoy them.
 

Leidang

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Check out Viking River Cruises.... travel across Europe in your hotel room. Different city every day plus a lot more relaxing then lots of driving or plane travel. And roomier than trains.

Of course it limits your flexibility but we found it a very relaxing way to take in the sights.
 

aforstate

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Yes..... absolutely. Way too much traveling for 2 weeks. Picked 3 or 4 stops max and enjoy them.

Agreed. I spent 14 days on London, Paris, Barcelona and Amsterdam and that was spreading it too thin. You're going to be running and that's about it, unless you are the best planner in history.
 

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