I don't think "but the news channels do it" or "but people on facebook do it" is necessarily a strong point to make. Regardless of the news channels or facebook I don't think it serves any purpose other than it lets us all point our fingers in the same direction.
Explosions at Boston Marathon
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It seems more productive to start from a standpoint of it could have been anyone, and then eliminate possible suspects as more information becomes available. Then people saying things like it was definitely al qaeda, or it was a crazy tax-hater militia type.
Yes, but mesa is not this person..... I just found it amusing to the level of mesa's conjecture..... and at that point, these were media statements.... at the rate of unreliable statements made by the media over the past couple of days.. I am not putting any stock on these until there are some official statements made by the FBI.
You link me somewhere that I posted that Mesa was a reputable person in the intelligence community, and I'll eat my shoe.
In the meantime, this is a forum, where people share opinions. Why don't you attack his position instead of trying to silence him?
It is very likely that someone saw the person(s) responsible and didnt know it or realize it at the time. Think about the size of the crowd both racers and spectators in such a small area. It is my understanding that these bombs were likely in backpacks and it would be very common for both racers and spectators to have a bag of some sort with them so this would not be out of the ordinary.
My point is it would be nearly impossible without time lapse video focused directly on the areas where the bombs went off to have any conclusive evidence that would indicate a suspect. Even then if the person were smart they probably had a hat or hood obstructing their face and the clothing would likely be hard to identify as "unique"
I noticed that the guy in the wheelchair who lost his leg - you all know the pic - was being escorted by a guy in a cowboy hat who appeared to have applied a pretty darn effective tourniquet - he even had his hand on it. Despite the gore, it didn't appear that the wound was bleeding anywhere near as much as it should have been. I couldn't help having instant respect for those in that photo.
I wasn't calling you out man, I was just generalizing what I've been hearing through various media outlets.
That guy is being profiled pretty heavily, he lost his son in Iraq and is being hailed as one of the heroes of the day.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/16/newser-boston-marathon-iconic-photo/2087515/
I doubt it was a terrorist group, or at least an organized one. If so, they would have spoken up and taken credit for it. You don't just do something like this, you also want people to know that you (the group) did it, and that you (the group) could do it again
I think they did an interview with him and he said that was holding an artery. Back and forth on all over the internet, but I thought he said it in a video. Can't watch video at work to confirm if that is true.
Just showing where you yourself said from someone in the know..... you questioned why I said stop to mesa..... cause(and I'm going out on a limb here) he is not in the know...
I think it's a little political at this point to be pointing fingers in any specific direction, and at this point we really don't need to be saying it was this group or that group.
i just thought the level of conjecture was a little toolish....and it was vectoring the discussion in a direction that was going to get political very fast. We have the cave for that.
And write down somewhere (preferably on the tourniquet) when you did that - in applying the tourniquet, you're killing the limb and elapsed time is something that the docs need to know.
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yeah, that's what we were taught in Boy Scouts. Also, that it was something to be sure about, because, like you said, you're basically killing the limb, if it's on there for too long. Not something to mess around with unless you're sure.
Also, you need to ensure you don't try to apply a tourniquet on or at a joint. I believe it needs to be a certain distance from a joint as well, but I can't specifically remember.
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I'm not sure how that tells us anything for certain. Hauling a couple bombs into downtown Boston has to be a little more tricky than in Bagdad or some desert highway. They could be smaller just to make it easier to get in and place them.
