Which BCS team(s) does not deserve what they got?

Who do you want out?

  • USC

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • Illinois

    Votes: 78 66.1%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 35 29.7%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • Hawaii

    Votes: 13 11.0%
  • Georgia

    Votes: 7 5.9%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • West Virginia

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • LSU

    Votes: 10 8.5%
  • Ohio State

    Votes: 43 36.4%

  • Total voters
    118

mj4cy

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I'll try this again. Pick the team or teams that you think got lucky for whatever reason. My vote is for the two big 10 schools. OSU obviously deserves a BCS bid, but not the title game.
 

mj4cy

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Did Iowa get a bowl game? Then they deserve what they got.
 

DaddyMac

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Illinois - easily. How many teams did they jump to get to the Rose Bowl?

And they also lost thrice - once to iowa and a Mizzou team that got snubbed?

Wrong, wrong, wrong....
 

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Illinois gets this one by far. Totally not deserving of a BCS Bowl. It should have been Arizona State or Missouri IMO.
 

mj4cy

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3 loss teams that don't win their conference or don't play in a conference with a title game shouldn't get a BCS bid.
 

mj4cy

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Illinois - easily. How many teams did they jump to get to the Rose Bowl?

And they also lost thrice - once to iowa and a Mizzou team that got snubbed?

Wrong, wrong, wrong....


Does them getting a Rose bowl have anything to do with it traditionally being a PAC 10- Big 10 game?
 

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Hawaii and Illinois. Illinois is a joke, period. Hawaii deserves a middle of the road bowl game and nothing more. The BCS has spoken, and if you want a sure thing BCS birth just get into a craptacular conference and make sure to schedule cream puff non-conference games with no challenge and bingo, you're in a BCS game. How soon can we move to the Sun-Belt Conference?
 

DaddyMac

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Does them getting a Rose bowl have anything to do with it traditionally being a PAC 10- Big 10 game?

Oh it absolutely does. 100% the reason they're in that game.

But it's a crock if you can leapfrog that many teams just to maintain historical rivalries.

FWIW - I think KU getting the nod over Mizzou stinks as well. They have a horrid schedule and lost to the one team on it. And that's the team they jumped.

If the BCS wants any credibility - it should be 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6 and so on.

I don't have much of a problem with the final standings, aside from the fact that once again, the Big 10 gets in by default and not playing a championship game.
 
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jdoggivjc

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Hawaii and Illinois. Illinois is a joke, period. Hawaii deserves a middle of the road bowl game and nothing more. The BCS has spoken, and if you want a sure thing BCS birth just get into a craptacular conference and make sure to schedule cream puff non-conference games with no challenge and bingo, you're in a BCS game. How soon can we move to the Sun-Belt Conference?

Say what you want about Hawaii, but they did everything they did to earn their BCS Bowl berth - all they had to do was finish in the top 12 of the final BCS poll and the BCS was required to take them. They finished at #10. They earned their spot.
 

mj4cy

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Hawaii and Illinois. Illinois is a joke, period. Hawaii deserves a middle of the road bowl game and nothing more. The BCS has spoken, and if you want a sure thing BCS birth just get into a craptacular conference and make sure to schedule cream puff non-conference games with no challenge and bingo, you're in a BCS game. How soon can we move to the Sun-Belt Conference?



While I see what you're saying, I think Boise State proved that teams like them and Hawaii deserve their shot to play with the big boys. That being said, I am excited to watch the Hawaii Georgia game.
 

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I heard on ESPN that ASU didn't get picked because they wouldn't bring the fan base and MONEY to the Fiesta bowl beacuse its in Arizona. Just goes to show what really matters in college football
 

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Kansas leaping Missouri is by far the worst thing the BC$$$$ has done in a long while. I hate both equally, but MU was penalized for
1) beating Kansas head to head
2) playing an extra game against a top 10 opponent the Big XII title game
3) playing a tougher schedule + more quality wins.

Kansas has zero wins against teams in the top 25. Their only claim for beating a ranked team can be their win over K-State...who turned out to be a 5-6 team.

Lew Perkins must have a great reach around because the Orange Bowl honks were already snuggled up to KU before the Big XII game even kicked off.
 

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I will say Illinois is the worst BCS team since Pitt and shouldn't be in.

I am tempted to say Hawaii for their lack of dominating weak teams, but last year Bosie St. struggled against San Jose St and Wyoming. I will wait till after they play to past judgement.
 

ISUFan22

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I heard on ESPN that ASU didn't get picked because they wouldn't bring the fan base and MONEY to the Fiesta bowl beacuse its in Arizona. Just goes to show what really matters in college football

It is my understanding the same was viewed of Mizzou.
 

mj4cy

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Kansas leaping Missouri is by far the worst thing the BC$$$$ has done in a long while. I hate both equally, but MU was penalized for
1) beating Kansas head to head
2) playing an extra game against a top 10 opponent the Big XII title game
3) playing a tougher schedule + more quality wins.

Kansas has zero wins against teams in the top 25. Their only claim for beating a ranked team can be their win over K-State...who turned out to be a 5-6 team.

Lew Perkins must have a great reach around because the Orange Bowl honks were already snuggled up to KU before the Big XII game even kicked off.

Very true

Essentially, Kansas did the right thing by losing. Missouri got penalized for beating KU and having to play another tough team. BCS makes as much sense as a "screendoor on a battle ship"
 

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The entire bowl system (including the BCS) is nothing more than over-hyped, money-grubbing, meaningless exhibition games anyway. The whole bowl system is illogical, random, and corrupt so why wouldn't the selection process follow suit? It makes for good TV (sometimes) and generates a ton of money for the host cities, the conferences, and most importantly, the NCAA. If the NCAA wasn't busy swimming in the giant pile of money the BCS makes for them, they might actually be concerned that Div. 1 football is the only collegiate sport that doesn't determine a national champion.

How can a sport that's been played for over 100 years not have a national champion? It boggles the mind.
 

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Oh it absolutely does. 100% the reason they're in that game.

I'm going to play devil's advocate and disagree with this point. While I'm sure tradition played a role in selecting Illinois, I'd be willing to bet that given the full range of options, Illinois is not in this bowl. USC has a guaranteed slot in this bowl. Without the whole "two team per conference" rule, you have three options:

USC vs. Mizzou (ineligible because OU and KU are in from the Big XII)
USC vs. Florida (ineligible because LSU and UGA are in from the SEC)
USC vs. Illinois

Personally, I think the USC-Florida game would be the game of choice because it would mean BIG money and BIG ratings for the Rose Bowl.
 

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