***Official 2017 Transfer Thread***

Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by Messi, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Cynonymous

    Cynonymous Well-Known Member

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    Let's say 1 team/conference redshirts a player every 2 years. It's not common but it happens regularly. I'm not saying those numbers are legit but just as a reference. The MB came up with a mythic correlation with transfers and redshirting. It is possible that a recruit is misled by a staff and then asked to redshirt out of the blue upon arrival. Could happen, but I tend to believe that if there is any possibility of that happening, the coaching staff is up front with the possibility through recruitment, up through the first month of practices. If a player truly believes they aren't going to fit at a school, why are they committing? It may be true that there are far more players that want to start and be a star on the team they commit to, but there are some that just want to play for a successful team and are willing to be the role player with a chance to move up if they work hard and develop their game. These are usually the candidates for redshirt, not the possible starter players.

    Why recruit role players as opposed to possible starters for an entire roster? Well it would be ideal, but it's also logically far harder to keep people happy with minutes and every team needs role players to be successful. Even Kentucky uses role players that aren't expected to be stars.
     
  2. rholtgraves

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    It is common among schools who don't recruit well. Like Iowa.
     
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  3. LLCoolJansma

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    I'd also argue this "new era of transfers" deters from what most consider traditional red shirts. A lot of teams have a player transferring in using a roster spot normally ear marked for a red shirt (ISU had Kasongo and Lard). Freshman are very reluctant to accept a red shirt even in the case they decide to transfer out and wouldn't want to lose a year of eligibility sitting. I felt bad things didn't work out for Sharron Dorsey-Walker after he RS his freshman year and had to burn a eligible year sitting out at Oakland.

    (Hope SDW's team can continue their run in the NIT after last night. btw)
     
  4. SolarGarlic

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    Not sure what to expect from McNeil. He looks a little thin but had some nice offers. I'm hoping either he or Long emerges as a solid guard off the bench.
     
  5. Cynonymous

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    I don't see the relation at all. It is easier to transfer, but players don't go to a school expecting to transfer. Again the redshirt candidates are developing players that wouldn't start right away anyway.
     
  6. baagoe

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    Lorenzo Romar is out at Washington...
     
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  7. 2020cy

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    I think they have a good guard open up his recruitment.
     
  8. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Active Member

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    I love this time of year
     
  9. baagoe

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    Tom Crean gone at Indiana as well.
     
  10. CyTwins

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    Great timing
     
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  11. somecyguy

    somecyguy Active Member

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    That seems like a dumb thing to do
     
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  12. bozclone

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    Most IU fans did not like Crean and haven't for several years. General feeling is he can recruit, but can't coach.
     
  13. Messi

    Messi Well-Known Member

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  14. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Active Member

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    Why? Crean brings little to a school that recruits itself
     
  15. somecyguy

    somecyguy Active Member

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    That's like saying Nebraska football recruits itself. Yes, some players are still awed by the idea of playing for them, but you need a good coach to get the others. I don't care strongly one way or another, but I think Crean did a decent job there.
     
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  16. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Active Member

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    #296 FinalFourCy, Mar 16, 2017
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    Yeah, that's a very bad comparison.

    NU was never a recruiting power and football and basketball are completely different
     
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  17. LLCoolJansma

    LLCoolJansma Well-Known Member

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  18. baagoe

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  19. CTTB78

    CTTB78 Well-Known Member

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    Surprising this kid went to PedU with the great offer list that he had. Did he do much at PSU?
     
  20. Knownothing

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    Didn't Samuel start out at icon?
     

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