He is a better ball handler than Tinsley. Dribbling the ball between defender’s legs looks fancy but is not good handling. Haliburton handles the ball with less errors and creates shots or plays off the dribble better than Tinsley against NBA players.
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How about Stacy Frese? Honestly she may have turned around the women’s program. She gave us such a spark and could control the game.
If Haliburton played for Floyd, Larry, Fred, or TJ his college career would be viewed more favorably. Also funny looking back he was the afterthought in that recruiting class.
Based on my (probably shaky) memories of each of them:
Haliburton - best passer
Tinsley - best handles, most dominant
Morris - best pure point guard
Kane - best slashing, and best rebounding
Hornacek - best shooter, most clutch
Blaylock - best on fastbreaks, best at getting to the rim
Garrett - fastest
Bayless - best defender
Holloway - best facilitator
Lipsey - fastest hands
Haliburton - best passer
Tinsley - best handles, most dominant
Morris - best pure point guard
Kane - best slashing, and best rebounding
Hornacek - best shooter, most clutch
Blaylock - best on fastbreaks, best at getting to the rim
Garrett - fastest
Bayless - best defender
Holloway - best facilitator
Lipsey - fastest hands
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This is such a great thread. we have truly been spoiled with good if not great point guards over the years.
Meanwhile in the hawk forums they are (just now?) realizing that one of Fran’s problems is an inability to draft/develop/coach PGs.
Love them Clones! Our worst PG over the last 20 years would likely be their best.
Meanwhile in the hawk forums they are (just now?) realizing that one of Fran’s problems is an inability to draft/develop/coach PGs.
Love them Clones! Our worst PG over the last 20 years would likely be their best.
I have to go with Monte. Not as flashy or heroic as Tinsley but to have those almost error free stats for four years and to play almost 40 minutes every game, I don't know if it can ever be done again...... although if Tamin is here four years I may reconsider
That 99-00 team was small ball all game and a horrible matchup for everyone.
Tinsley, Horton, and Nurse could all handle and get to the hoop, and while Horton wasn't great from three that year (I looked it up) he was a valid threat and Nurse was very good.
Then Fizer had great handle for a big man and Stevie Johnson was just an athlete.
In 00-01 Horton was only better and could have probably played PG for all sorts of good teams, and they were young but had good shooters and tough players. Paul Shirley also had some time in the NBA.
I'd put those around him much more than 'role players'. I think that's underplayed and the 'Morris was surrounded by NBA talent' is overplayed since many only got short time.
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I have always defended Scotty when he was getting slammed for what he did. His wasn't a throat slash but the stop it or cut it out gesture.
Tinsley definitely did the throat slash here. But I'm sure that is the norm at Rucker Park.
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Stevie was probably the best linebacker to ever play forward for ISU.
Easily one of my favorite ISU player stories.
I don't think those guys were role players. My comment was more aimed at LEs offensive gameplan. Certainly all those guys were good players. But can you imagine Tinsley in that Hoiberg offense? That would have been something to see.
Tinsley may have also been the best defender. He certainly had a knack for getting steals and generally disrupting the other team's offense.
I know that Blaylock was listed as PG but it seemed to me that the half-court offense usually ran through Stinson.
If I were to list the best PGs, it would be
1. Hornacek
2. Tinsley and Morris
4. Kane
The offense would have been different with Tinsley. Hoiberg relied on 5 players that were kind of interchangeable on offense and all could shoot. Tinsley was not a great shooter but having him distribute to all those shooters would have been interesting.
The Tinsley couldn't shoot narrative is overplayed. He was bad his first year, but he shot 38% from 3 his second year and 32% for his career at ISU.
