Bama<OK State

[vmbplayer]

Okay, so let me start by saying that I'm for a 4 team playoff so none of this should matter. But I am sick of hearing everyone in the media spouting off a load of garbage now that Bama won about how they were clearly the right choice etc etc and justifying the BCS system today.

I just heard on KC 810 AM sports radio one of these experts say that Oklahoma State's schedule doesn't compare to what Bama had to play.

OH REALLY?

I decided to run down the numbers on that load of crap as we all saw the Big 12 record against non conference opponents this season.

In the final AP poll Bama played the following:
#5
#2 loss
#2 win

OK State played:
#13 win
#15 win
#16 win
#7 win


Of their opponents 8 of Bama's were bowl elligible going 4-3 in their bowl games. (Note I'm not including Georgia Southern's D2 post season run)

Of their opponents 9 of OK states opponents went to Bowls going 6-3.

Tell me exactly what makes Bama so far head and shoulders above everyone else? Yes, Okie State had one non-top 25 loss to us. However to say they are way out of their league compared to Bama because of one game is silly.

 

[HILLCYD]

Bama (a team with no conf title, etc) had to beat LSU once on a neutral field to win the NC.

LSU had to beat Bama at home once, and then on a neutral field.

The system completely sucks *** and this year (along with many others) is a perfect example.

The good news....the world can thank ISU for screwing it all up!

 

[chuckd4735]

Okay, so let me start by saying that I'm for a 4 team playoff so none of this should matter. But I am sick of hearing everyone in the media spouting off a load of garbage now that Bama won about how they were clearly the right choice etc etc and justifying the BCS system today.

I just heard on KC 810 AM sports radio one of these experts say that Oklahoma State's schedule doesn't compare to what Bama had to play.

OH REALLY?

I decided to run down the numbers on that load of crap as we all saw the Big 12 record against non conference opponents this season.

In the final AP poll Bama played the following:
#5
#2 loss
#2 win

OK State played:
#13 win
#15 win
#16 win
#7 win


Of their opponents 8 of Bama's were bowl elligible going 4-3 in their bowl games. (Note I'm not including Georgia Southern's D2 post season run)

Of their opponents 9 of OK states opponents went to Bowls going 6-3.

Tell me exactly what makes Bama so far head and shoulders above everyone else? Yes, Okie State had one non-top 25 loss to us. However to say they are way out of their league compared to Bama because of one game is silly.

To say that Bama<Ok State is equally, if not more, silly.

 

[Cyforce]

Bama would shove the ball right down OKSt throat.

 

[RayShimley]

To say that Bama<Ok State is equally, if not more, silly.

Right now, I'd say Bama = LSU = OSU. That is the only fair conclusion that can be drawn.

 

[The_Architect]

Okie Lite could maybe beat Alabama 1 out of 10 tries based solely on the "eyeball test." They'd be lucky to score 10 points against that defense (ours held them to 17 in regulation with basically the worst pass rush in the Big 12). Did you happen to see the Alabama pass rush last night? Unstoppable.

On the other side of the ball, it's completely laughable to think Okie State's merely average defense could consistently get stops against the Tide (or LSU for that matter).

LSU and Alabama would both have bludgeoned the Cowboys.

With that all being said, the system clearly sucks and I agree with you that it should be decided on the field.

 

[RhoadsRage]

I'd say Bama=LSU>Okie St..........I thought OSU was good but not great. Bama and LSU will have a minimum of about 10-12 players apiece that will be playing on Sundays.

 

[chuckd4735]

Right now, I'd say Bama = LSU = OSU. That is the only fair conclusion that can be drawn.

How can you say that right now Bama = LSU? Bama just man handled LSU LAST NIGHT! I'm not going to get into the arguments of who deserved to play last night, but it is fact that 1) Bama played a football game last night against LSU and 2) Bama won that game, so as of right now, Bama would be better than LSU. On November 5, LSU was better, on January 9, Bama was better. Also, Bama's D would of given Oklahoma State fits last night, and their offense would have scored more than 21 points on Oklahoma States defense.

 

[atlantacyclone]

If KSU and A&M had beaten Arkansas there would be no debate. OSU is probably a better team.

 

[cybsball20]

If KSU and A&M had beaten Arkansas there would be no debate. OSU is probably a better team.

Agree... I was REALLY hoping K-State would beat Arkansas just to strengthen OSU's argument.

 

[Goothrey]

oSu would score at least a TD against Bama. Probably more.

 

[3TrueFans]

Okie St. barely being able to beat Stanford doesn't help their case any.

 

[DurangoCy]

To say that Bama<Ok State is equally, if not more, silly.

To entirely miss the point of his post because you couldn't see pass the thread title might be considered silly also.

 

[chuckd4735]

To entirely miss the point of his post because you couldn't see pass the thread title might be considered silly also.

I judge books by their cover.

 

[DurangoCy]

oSu would score at least a TD against Bama. Probably more.

Alabama might have scored 50 on OSU though. We can't just assume that their offense would've struggled like it did last night against LSU when comparing it to OSU.

 

[IowaSTATCyclone]

OSU would have scored more than LSU did! They would also have gotten more turnovers.

I just wish I could have seen them play each other. I think the Cowboys would have beaten LSU, but I doubt Alabama.

But you don't want to base a NC on what I think, because I'd give it to West Virginia based on their cartoonish beatdown of Clemson. I'm not kidding: I don't think Bugs Bunny scored that many against the Gashouse Gorillas.

Which is why championships should be based on games played, not games not played.

 

[cybsball20]

OSU would be BY FAR the best offense Alabama has seen. Oklahoma State was #4 in total offense, the best offense Alabama saw all year was Arkansas at #28. After Arkansas you have to go down to LSU at #57 to find the next best offense... Iowa State finished at #54.

 

[alarson]

Okie St. barely being able to beat Stanford doesn't help their case any.

But end of the day, they did beat them, so imo it does help. They were the BCS #4.

 

[RhoadsRage]

If KSU and A&M had beaten Arkansas there would be no debate. OSU is probably a better team.

If Alabama's kickers didn't look like ISU's in the first LSU game, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Bama missed 4 of 6 FGs in that game. :shocked:

 

[cyclonespiker33]

I'll admit that Bama played very good defense last night. But you can't convince me that they would have done the same thing to OSU. The LSU offense was just terrible with absoultely no vertical pass game threat. It's pretty easy to defend that.