*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Ranking of conference commissioners in priority order from Raider to Reasonable:

1. Slive of SEC - wants to take over the whole South

2. John Swofford of ACC - fired third salvo.

3. John Marrinotta of BE - survival of the fittest

4 Larry Scott of PAC 12 - cast the second stone

5. Jim Delaney of Big Ten - cast the first stone

6. Chuck Neinas of Big 12

7. MWC

8, WAC

9. CUSA


Four of six BCS conferences paid commissioners $1M or more - ESPN
Karl Benson of WAC
 
He asked for Mizzou respect and here is what you give him. An Alba to Snook comparison. Just for the record, there are a couple of males in the Jersey Shore house that have hit the Snook, so she is semi popular with the guys. And Alba has had kids.

Sigh...

NO, he cocked off about how they would eventually be able to compete in the SEC. It was pointed out that Missouri is on the far edge of what may be SEC territory. And that they were going to lose Texas, which is certainly one of their main recruiting areas with this move.

In response, he said that LSU, South Carolina, etc were outposts of the SEC like Mizzu would be if they joined. And since they were successful, that meant that Missouri would be as well.

Now, if you think that the level of recruit is the same in Missouri, as it is in Louisiana, and the rest of the SEC territory, then arguing with you is pointless.

And if you don't get the level of class difference between Jessica Alba, and Snooki, then you would be in the category of CyPhillis admission in the TCU thread. Alba could have 25 kids and she would still be better than snookie.

Also, using the moron guys in the Jersey Shore hooking up with a girl as an indicator of quality of that girl, is kind of like using Tom Osborne as an indicator of strict discipline in a football program.

You must be one of those wannabe situations....Sad dude.
 
Almost half way though the day on Monday and nothing new to add to the monster thread? I was really hoping for some additional Big 12 expansion rumors or some direction either way from Mizzou this week.
 
More evidence that ESPN is becoming the de facto commish of college athletics.

Did ESPN fuel Big East's demise? You can bet Big East thinks so - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com

Seriously.
The whole thing is nuts.
Men who have known each other for decades and labeled themselves friends have spent months lying to and backstabbing each other, and they do it with no apologies and few regrets. Everybody is out for themselves. A kill-or-be-killed mindset has taken over.

The resulting stories have been eye-opening -- none more than a report in this weekend's Boston Globe that featured the following quote from Boston College athletic director Gene DeFilippo on the subject of the ACC's decision to poach Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the Big East: "We always keep our television partners close to us. ... TV -- ESPN -- is the one who told us what to do."

Is this surprising?

Absolutely not -- because there's been speculation for months that the Big East sealed its fate last May when it rejected a nine-year, $1.4 billion television contract from ESPN. Long story not so long, the Big East decided it would rather open up bidding to NBC and Fox than accept that deal from ESPN, meaning the Big East was probably going to sign a deal with NBC or Fox, meaning NBC or Fox likely was on the verge of gaining a relevant share of the college sports landscape, and that's not something ESPN (or anybody in ESPN's position of power) would have liked.

The only way ESPN could ensure NBC or Fox wouldn't gain a relevant share of the college sports landscape was to make the Big East irrelevant, and, in case you haven't heard, the Big East is suddenly really close to being irrelevant because the ACC took Syracuse and Pittsburgh to get to 14 members. That led to the Big 12 taking TCU to get to 10, which could lead to Louisville and West Virginia exiting the Big East, too.

"ESPN is the one who told us what to do."


Again, those words aren't surprising -- they're just surprising to hear on the record from an ACC athletic director. Meantime, it should be noted that ESPN and the ACC have both denied DeFilippo's remarks in statements to the New York Times, but what else would they do? It's not like the ACC can say ESPN assured it of a better television contract if it would take Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the Big East, and it's not like ESPN can say it stood to benefit in a variety of ways from the ACC being strengthened at the Big East's expense.
But these two statements cannot be debated:
[SIZE=+1]•[/SIZE] There is no denying that the ACC will receive a better television contract with Syracuse and Pittsburgh involved.
[SIZE=+1]•[/SIZE] There's no denying that the Big East being greatly diminished makes the league less attractive to NBC and Fox.

They're accepted facts.
So did ESPN help destroy the Big East?
I guess I can't say for sure.
But I bet the folks at the Big East office feel that way.
And if they do, well, I think most people could understand why.
 
Man, thats an interesting conspiracy theory there.. Big East rejects ESPN, so ESPN does everything it can to kill the big east.
 
Man, thats an interesting conspiracy theory there.. Big East rejects ESPN, so ESPN does everything it can to kill the big east.
It is no surprise to me. It is a jungle out there. It is good business since you have long term money locked up and it must be protected. The way the games are being put on cable we could see 3 NBC/Comcast afternoon gamers also. Comcast was reaL BIG BACK EAST. ESPN is located in UCONN territory.
 
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Man, thats an interesting conspiracy theory there.. Big East rejects ESPN, so ESPN does everything it can to kill the big east.

Yeah, its really interesting. My opinion is that ESPN isn't choosing to directly kill the Big East out of spite, but the author's point is that if you look at the objective facts, all the signs would look that way by themselves.

Just seems weird to me that the Big East will likely turn to Colorado Springs, CO and Boise, ID to try to salvage the conference. Couldn't we have somebody more objective in charge to look after the good of the game than ESPN being the primary voice of input and reason to these college presidents.

I'm sure if ESPN was the commish of the NFL that some team like the Jaguars would've moved to LA many years ago.

Either that, or realignment would be taking place in the NFL every 3-4 years like it does in college sports now.
 
WVU academics = no ACC. It's really the Big 12 or SEC for WVU.

Agreed. I still think this goes down one of two ways, WVU to the SEC, or Mizzou to the SEC and WVU to the Big 12. The only question mark would seem to be what happens with the rest of the league? Do the Big 12 and ACC move in to clean up what is left? Or do the remaining football teams actually expand and remain?
 
Seems like Mizzou today does not have an offer from SEC or B1G. Looks like they will announce soon that they are staying.

aTm and their mason jars scared off the Tigers.
 
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