*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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The marquee matchups from adding Florida State would bring way more money than the 7 million in TV viewers from adding Mizzou.

People get too wrapped up in TV sets. If it was all about TV's, the Big 10 would never have added Nebraska. Marquee games are worth far more that additional TV sets.

The fact that ISU has been terrible in football and basketball over the past 6 years has far more to do with why we haven't gotten into the Big 10 than the fact that we don't add TV's.

Long before Nebraska was in the B1G there were several Nebraska bars in major cities throughout the country. Nebraska has a huge fan base and travel better than any fan base in the country. I am by no means a Nebraska fan, however, you have to respect their ability to draw in viewers and travelers.
 
Calling the shot tonight on the announcement: TCU joins, Mizzou stays, Louisville and BYU are joining in two years.
 
Calling the shot tonight on the announcement: TCU joins, Mizzou stays, Louisville and BYU are joining in two years.

If this all went down tonight...

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Calling the shot tonight on the announcement: TCU joins, Mizzou stays, Louisville and BYU are joining in two years.

I wish...however I think the "major" announcement will just be that TCU has accepted their invite.

I'm fairly certain something would have leaked if we were doing anything else.
 
@sptwri Mike DeArmond
SEC officials talk about, but come to no decision on explansion. At kansascity.com. #kcsports. campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/2123

I don't know if anybody else read this as it didn't get any comments yet, but check out the last sentences....I love that a conference could potentially have all teams geographically aligned except for one team that is completely out of whack.

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There seems to be no preference on Missouri’s part regarding a possible division home. Geographically the west would make the most sense for Missouri. However, Missouri might be able to better compete at this point in the SEC east, where Florida is down and neither Georgia nor South Carolina would appear dominant.
 
Sounds like the Big East might want to roll with expansion as early as this week...and that Boise might not be headed east just yet.

Source: Big East likely to expand quickly - Connecticut Post

Air Force, Navy, Temple and East Carolina are others that have been touted as potential additions to the Big East. It has been reported that Boise State is also being considered, but a source indicated that that's not in the mix as much as people think it is.
 
Does anyone else wonder how Texas agreeing to invite TCU amounts to a concession to the other teams in the league? Maybe my assumptions about recruiting are majorly flawed, but doesn't the addition of TCU hurt the Iowa States/Kansases/K-States the most?

From what I understand, a huge selling point of our program to recruits passed over by UT is that they'll still get the chance to play a few games in their home state each year in front of family and friends; don't we lose that edge to TCU now? From UT's point of view, nothing changes, since it's not like the top recruits are going to start choosing TCU over the top dog in the state; UT will still have their pick of the best players. But for a lot of recruits who would only choose a school like ISU for the chance to play a few games in Texas each year, TCU has suddenly moved up past ISU on their preference list since it's closer to home.

Or am I completely wrong about this?
 
Does anyone else wonder how Texas agreeing to invite TCU amounts to a concession to the other teams in the league? Maybe my assumptions about recruiting are majorly flawed, but doesn't the addition of TCU hurt the Iowa States/Kansases/K-States the most?

From what I understand, a huge selling point of our program to recruits passed over by UT is that they'll still get the chance to play a few games in their home state each year in front of family and friends; don't we lose that edge to TCU now? From UT's point of view, nothing changes, since it's not like the top recruits are going to start choosing TCU over the top dog in the state; UT will still have their pick of the best players. But for a lot of recruits who would only choose a school like ISU for the chance to play a few games in Texas each year, TCU has suddenly moved up past ISU on their preference list since it's closer to home.

Or am I completely wrong about this?

I really don't have an issue with TCU...

1. They were probably going to beat us for most Texas recruits anyways
2. Compared to the ginormous talent pool in Texas, one signing class by one school per year isn't a huge deal.
 
TCU already beats us for Texas recruits. Texas Tech (and probably OSU) has more to worry about as TCU has nearly as highly rated recruiting classes now without being in the Big 12.
 
Interesting leak to the AP...

I can't help but think
1. Those TV revenue $ are skewed because they don't include the renegotiation of B12 Tier 1 in 2-3 years...and they assume the SEC gets to completely rip up their current contracts and renegotiate
2. Only a $10 million buyout? What??? I know that's the 2-year option, but still...
3. Interesting to see Notre Dame on there as an option on there (non-football of course)

The Associated Press: APNewsBreak: Document outlines Mizzou SEC options


Missouri is exploring a move to the Southeastern Conference in hopes of getting as much as $12 million each year in additional TV and cable revenue, according to a confidential document obtained by The Associated Press.
The 45-page document, which was reviewed by Missouri's governing board of curators on Oct. 4, outlines the pros and cons of leaving the Big 12 Conference for the SEC. It was obtained from a university official familiar with the discussions who is not authorized to speak publicly.
Among other things, the report outlines the possible contours of broad conference realignment and it includes recent upheaval in the ACC and Big East.
Under the heading of "possible future conferences" for the Big 12, it lists BYU, Louisville, TCU, West Virginia and Notre Dame (excluding football) as potential new members that could restore the fractured league to full strength. A TCU announcement of such a move was expected later Monday.


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When it comes to money, the report makes clear that Missouri is hopeful for a much bigger payday in the SEC.
The report suggests Missouri could earn $17.16 million in Big 12 TV money in fiscal year 2012, compared to $19.25 million from an SEC deal.
It also envisions a far bigger "per member share potential" should a larger SEC — with millions of more eyeballs in Texas and the Midwest — renegotiate its top-tier TV rights -- up to $12 million more per year.
Missouri could also "leverage (its) Tier 3 more," the report concludes, a reference to the TV rights not committed to cable networks but instead available as for pay-per-broadcast as well as school- and conference-specific networks such as the Longhorn Network, the Texas-ESPN enterprise blamed by some for throwing the Big 12 into turmoil.
"There are 33 million reasons" to join the SEC, said a second university official who had reviewed the report, citing the number of television households in the SEC's reach.


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An immediate departure by Missouri -- within six months, in time to for the 2012 football season -- would risk a hefty Big 12 exit fee of up to $25.9 million, according to the report, a penalty that would require the school to turn over the remainder of its 2011 TV revenue and all of its projected 2012 TV money to the conference.

A more likely exit fee would approach $10.4 million, the report says, under a scenario where Missouri would give the Big 12 more notice -- as much as two years -- before leaving. Both Nebraska ($9.26 million) and Colorado ($6.86 million) negotiated reduced exit payments upon leaving the Big 12 earlier this year for the Big Ten and Pac-12, respectively.
 
Does anyone else wonder how Texas agreeing to invite TCU amounts to a concession to the other teams in the league? Maybe my assumptions about recruiting are majorly flawed, but doesn't the addition of TCU hurt the Iowa States/Kansases/K-States the most?

From what I understand, a huge selling point of our program to recruits passed over by UT is that they'll still get the chance to play a few games in their home state each year in front of family and friends; don't we lose that edge to TCU now? From UT's point of view, nothing changes, since it's not like the top recruits are going to start choosing TCU over the top dog in the state; UT will still have their pick of the best players. But for a lot of recruits who would only choose a school like ISU for the chance to play a few games in Texas each year, TCU has suddenly moved up past ISU on their preference list since it's closer to home.

Or am I completely wrong about this?

I don't think TCU is a big deal on the recruiting front. They would be going to a BCS conference next year anyway. But we dont want to legitimize Houston or SMU by letting them in BCS conference.
 
The 45-page document, which was reviewed by Missouri's governing board of curators on Oct. 4, outlines the pros and cons of leaving the Big 12 Conference for the SEC. It was obtained from a university official familiar with the discussions who is not authorized to speak publicly.

:wideeyed:
 
An immediate departure by Missouri -- within six months, in time to for the 2012 football season -- would risk a hefty Big 12 exit fee of up to $25.9 million, according to the report, a penalty that would require the school to turn over the remainder of its 2011 TV revenue and all of its projected 2012 TV money to the conference.

A more likely exit fee would approach $10.4 million, the report says, under a scenario where Missouri would give the Big 12 more notice -- as much as two years -- before leaving. Both Nebraska ($9.26 million) and Colorado ($6.86 million) negotiated reduced exit payments upon leaving the Big 12 earlier this year for the Big Ten and Pac-12, respectively.

Wonder how they would get out of the Grant of Rights in order to stay an additional year. Maybe giving notice of a planned exit in two years would keep them from having to sign it. Looks like they can't afford the withholding penalty and want some negotiation. However, if we negotiate with them then it opens the door for A&M to want a negotiated exit withholding too.
 
I hope mizzou goes to sec. I think they can be replaced and I am tired of them ******* and moaning all the time. Just go already. You aren't that important.
 
Just visited Tigerboard. I can honestly say, I want them gone. GTFO and go to the SEC already. I now officially dislike them more than Iowa fan. I think the combined IQ of their board is below 50...
 
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