Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

t-noah

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Pods.
1. WVU, Cinn., ISU, UCF
2. Utah, BYU, Arz., arz state
3. TCU, Baylor, colo, TT
4. Kstate Kansas, OSU, Houston
Swap ISU and Houston, and Colo and OSU.

ISU, Kansas, KState and CU makes perfect sense.
Gotta get into TX and fla some though, but otherwise I'd agree.
Or KU, KSU, and WVU


Yeah, but you can also schedule it so that you are regularly playing in Texas and Florida
Homies, might I have found a solution?
 
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Please


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What I’ve been saying all along. Rotate out which pod you play each year (4 games) plus the 3 in your own, and 1 each from the others. 9 conf games. Easy peazy.
 

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Commish needs to start playing 3D chess. Let’s take OSU and WSU. Get the B1G on the phone if they’re taking Oregon and WA. Make it so they get their rival games and we split the revenue. Good times had for all.
 

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Commish needs to start playing 3D chess. Let’s take OSU and WSU. Get the B1G on the phone if they’re taking Oregon and WA. Make it so they get their rival games and we split the revenue. Good times had for all.
I think you are way overestimating the value of those rivalries.
 

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This KU fan nailed it. Set it up like the B1G. Up to 3 protected rivalries. Play all other teams each two years.

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The map is not what the B1G does. There are no protected rival pods. For example using a B1G style approach, ISU might get KU, K-State, and Colorado as its protected games. But Colorado doesn’t have to have the same group - it could have ISU, Utah, and Arizona State for example.

I agree that we should copy the B1G’s approach and ISU should get KU and KSU as 2 of its 3 protected games. Don’t really care what the 3rd one is, if anything at all. I think 15 schools in the B1G have only 1 or 2 true “protected” rivals and only Iowa has 3. The others are temporarily protected to make the schedule work and then they reset on a 3-year basis.
 

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The map is not what the B1G does. There are no protected rival pods. For example using a B1G style approach, ISU might get KU, K-State, and Colorado as its protected games. But Colorado doesn’t have to have the same group - it could have ISU, Utah, and Arizona State for example.

I agree that we should copy the B1G’s approach and ISU should get KU and KSU as 2 of its 3 protected games. Don’t really care what the 3rd one is, if anything at all. I think 15 schools in the B1G have only 1 or 2 true “protected” rivals and only Iowa has 3. The others are temporarily protected to make the schedule work and then they reset on a 3-year basis.
No, this does reflect what the B1G did. These are not pods. They are just assuming what the 3 protected rivalries might be. No guarantee it happens. As noted, Iowa got 3 protected rivalries. No one else had 3, but I like what they have proposed here and would take this for ISU in a heartbeat.

ISU cannot have CU as a protected rivalry if they don’t select us also. So your scenario that ISU would have KU, KSU, and CU; but CU would have ISU, Utah and ASU is not what the B1G did. Has to be mutual.
 
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cyIclSoneU

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No, this does reflect what the B1G did. These are not pods. They are just assuming what the 3 protected rivalries might be. No guarantee it happens. As noted, Iowa got 3 protected rivalries. No one else had 3, but I like what they have proposed here and would take this for ISU in a heartbeat.

ISU cannot have CU as a protected rivalry if they don’t select us also. So your scenario that ISU would have KU, KSU, and CU; but CU would have ISU, Utah and ASU is not what the B1G did. Has to be mutual.

I can’t tell if this is satire or if you are just missing the point. Your last three sentences make no sense whatsoever: ISU and CU are mutual in that scenario, and also, that’s exactly the sort of thing that the B1G did as I said. You are wrong.
 
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I can’t tell if this is satire or if you are just missing the point. Your last three sentences make no sense whatsoever: ISU and CU are mutual in that scenario, and also, that’s exactly the sort of thing that the B1G did as I said. You are wrong.

No. You just don’t understand. You interpret the map as forced rivalries. I believe their intent was to show how well the protected rivalries could work. The graphic clearly says their idea for “protected rivalries”. Your interpretation of pods was wrong.
 
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No. You just don’t understand. You interpret the map as forced rivalries. I believe their intent was to show how well the protected rivalries could work. The graphic clearly says their idea for “protected rivalries”. Your interpretation of pods was wrong.

“ISU cannot have CU as a protected rivalry if they don’t select us also. So your scenario that ISU would have KU, KSU, and CU; but CU would have ISU, Utah and ASU is not what the B1G did. Has to be mutual.”

Every part of this was wrong. 0 for 3.
 
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Michael Crow is going to screw ASU over if he don’t get with the program. He will be eating his last name
Why do want a school that doesn't want us? Screw those guys. There got to be options out there for schools that want to be a part of the B12.
 

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These Pac12 schools are tough. Almost like they don’t want their conference to implode. Some props for that
The same conference that got a bad media deal that is causing many schools to go into bad debt. The same conference that has to pay back over payments. The same conference whose members back stabbed it's own brothers to sneak out.
 

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Swap ISU and Houston, and Colo and OSU.

ISU, Kansas, KState and CU makes perfect sense.
Im thinking Oklahoma State will demand Texas games every year.
colo. same.
ISU can get good recruits from Ohio and Florida.
WVU doesnt recruit Texas much at all.

I think who's in what pod will be a bit contentious as coaches at some schools want a heavy dose of Texas schools.

There will be protected rivals, maybe even 3 rivals, so schools like ISU can get a good dose of big 8 schools.

 

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If I were Washington, I would think twice about the whining of addition travel expenses to the Big 10. Beggers cant be choosers, and if the Big 10 doesn't pan out for them and they are pulling the same crap with the Big 12, screw that.
But, IF it's true, one can't ignore that expense. They're in one deep hole and will have to learn how to live on a tighter budget. I assume Oregon is no different. BUT, that said, IF the B1G gets them in at 35, they're still plus 10 (roughly assuming $5 mil travel budget in P12). Interestingly, my inside P12 guy said a long time ago, the travel budgets would, alone, be a real issue.
 

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Your right. There is ESPN money. I was thinking more about the Fox money to get everyone whole. Because unequal revenue isn't a good way to go for the Big XII long term future. What happens in 5 years if no one wants to pony up full shares to make everyone whole. Unfortunately this isn't the B1G.
Fox is the car keys you borrowed to go 'all-in'.
 

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Wow. Try Googling just about any PAC 12 school's financial situation and it soon becomes obvious that most of them are serious financial trouble already. What is going to happen to them if the PAC 12 implodes and they get an even worse streaming deal? WSU, ASU, Wash, UCLA (which is getting bailed out by joining the B1G) and of course Cal which will still be paying off their stadium until at least 2053 are all running huge deficits already.
Can't underestimate how that played in to the Apple offer. Heck, take out the 70mil expense and things looked brighter. I regress. Hindsight is 20/20. Let's look forward now.