Official KU postgame thread

Cat Stevens

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This team clearly wasn't out for a moral victory.

Fans can be pleased with the effort shown and still not be thinking it was a moral victory.

I love people who appear out of nowhere every time there's a moment of adversity, preaching that no one should be happy and that we should EXPECT BETTER and then go on to predict doom. Lol at that.


You think it’s out of nowhere?
 

Cat Stevens

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I said that on Twitter and got roasted...here's the deal, great basketball players know when they are not "on" and then do their best to get other player involved...step up defense...hustle...you know, all the stuff that Lindell didn't appear to do.

I love the guy and he's got a huge upside...but this isn't an open gym...you don't just chuck it and drive like nobody else is on the court. ANYONE could have been more effective...and that's will all due respect to Lindell.

Also, I wish Babb was more selfish. He's so much better than what he gives himself credit for.

I"m done...we'll be fine...but our bench is too deep not to see some of the guys you mentioned.

The quality of your thoughts can be summarized by who agrees with you. This would be a pretty good example
 

Halincandenza

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Agree to disagree. Lindell has already proven he can play at a high level. The only reason he's not starting now is due to an injury. I think he needs a boost of confidence, and I think you do it now because we're going to need him down the road.

In some ways, I do believe it probably hurt Lindell's confidence and maybe other aspects of his game like just gelling with the team because he wasn't put back in the starting lineup when he came back from injury. I love Prohm, but I think taking someone's spot because of injury isn't the best move. I also think that he really only forced a couple shots last night. He missed a couple open threes. Lawson made a ridiculous play on the blocked dunk against Wigginton and one of the turnovers was just as much Haliburton as Wigginton.
 
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Cat Stevens

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Yeah, I watch other teams, even teams that lose more often than we do, to lesser competition, and they play flawlessly 40 minutes a game. It's crazy we can't do that too.


The post you quoted was bad, and wasn’t based in reality.

Today it’s like all the anti prohmers are more passive aggressive. They want to blame him, and still do for losing at a place everyone loses at, but don’t want to look as stupid as normal.

Wait till we lose in Oxford Saturday. They will throw off the shackles of restraint at that point.
 

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To me the reason for the outcome was simple. First half, we got easy shots and they had to make tough shots. Second half, they got easy shots and we had to make tough shots. They, and particularly Lawson, were simply a little more effective making tough shots than we were.
 

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In some ways, I do believe it probably hurt Lindell's confidence and maybe other aspects of his game like just gelling with the team because he wasn't put back in the starting lineup when he came back from injury. I love Prohm, but I think taking someone's spot because of injury isn't the best move. I also think that he really only forced a couple shots last night. He missed a couple open threes. Lawson made a ridiculous play on the blocked dunk against Wigginton and one of the turnovers was just as much Haliburton as Wigginton.


Since the Tim Floyd era, on a fast break the lane is filled at the corner. Halliburton stopped running.

It’s too bad because converting there really may have won the game for our guys.
 

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To me the reason for the outcome was simple. First half, we got easy shots and they had to make tough shots. Second half, they got easy shots and we had to make tough shots. They, and particularly Lawson, were simply a little more effective making tough shots than we were.


They have a guy that can go get two whenever he wants.

Plus, our defensive switches out front, never took angles away.
 
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Yeah, I watch other teams, even teams that lose more often than we do, to lesser competition, and they play flawlessly 40 minutes a game. It's crazy we can't do that too.

That's not at all what I said, but I appreciate the snark.
 

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Since the Tim Floyd era, on a fast break the lane is filled at the corner. Halliburton stopped running.

It’s too bad because converting there really may have won the game for our guys.

Yeah, I remember getting taught that in HS. He kind of stopped in a weird spot half way in between the wing and the corner.
 

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With Garrett playing as well as he is, it makes them difficult to guard. You can't leave to help if you are guarding Lawson, Vick or Dotson because they will make you pay for it.
Thought their Freshman that was going to redshirt looks like he could be a good player down the road. He is athletic and strong and has a nice looking shot.
 

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Tactically, why didn't we go at Lawson more to foul him out? He is their whole team, and he played top of his game last night. But he got his 3rd foul at the 10:30 mark, I believe. Why not get MJ the ball and try to jump into him a few times and try to draw another foul? That would have back-footed KU a ton.

Seemed like a great idea to me anyway.

Pride was correct.

Jacobson is not in the same league athletically as Lawson. He had the ball at the rim quite a times, and got out athleted.

I know this may not make sense to you, and goes against your efforts here. But it wasn’t like Michael didn’t get touches in the post.
 

Clonefan32

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Definitely not as good as Vroman was under the broads.

Has anyone ever stood next to Jacobson? He isn't 6'9. I would guess closer to 6'7". Jackson Vroman was a legitimate 6'10". Big difference.

Jacobson is a power forward having to guard centers. He's battling in there but he's just limited by his size. He was never going to be an elite rebounder going against the Big 12's bigs.
 

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I love Prohm but last night was on him. No adjustments for action KU used 30 times to give Garrett an automatic lay up. Also, when your team is chucking up 3s and fumbling the ball on drives maybe take a timeout and get their heads right?

This is dumb.
 
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The only thing I've noticed is that the better we're doing (while the outcome is in doubt), the less likely he is to sub. I do think he needs to make it a point to sub out Babb more, as 39 minutes of wear and tear a game isn't good for him, and we'll need him down the stretch (this is where I think starting Wigginton and bringing Tyrese off the bench at the first time out would help).

I think that was out of necessity last night. This team just goes into full blown panic mode whenever NWB isn’t on the floor.
 

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Has anyone ever stood next to Jacobson? He isn't 6'9. I would guess closer to 6'7". Jackson Vroman was a legitimate 6'10". Big difference.

Jacobson is a power forward having to guard centers. He's battling in there but he's just limited by his size. He was never going to be an elite rebounder going against the Big 12's bigs.

You see, the OP originally said broads instead of boards. I then made a joke out of that because Vroman was well known for having sex with any female that would have him.
 

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Has anyone ever stood next to Jacobson? He isn't 6'9. I would guess closer to 6'7". Jackson Vroman was a legitimate 6'10". Big difference.

Jacobson is a power forward having to guard centers. He's battling in there but he's just limited by his size. He was never going to be an elite rebounder going against the Big 12's bigs.

He's a legit 6'9
 
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CyTwins

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Pride was correct.

Jacobson is not in the same league athletically as Lawson. He had the ball at the rim quite a times, and got out athleted.

I know this may not make sense to you, and goes against your efforts here. But it wasn’t like Michael didn’t get touches in the post.

Lawson isn't that athletic. He's just really good
 
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