Nightmare in Maryville
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Agreed. If this had happened to my sister there would have been some serious retaliation regardless of what would happen to me.
Our neighbors had a very horny horse. I'm thinking that horse would have loved to have some fun with that Barnett kid hog tied over a bale or something.
Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder calls for review of rape case - CNN.com
Sounds like this case may not be over yet. The Lt. Governor has requested a grand jury be assembled to review the case.
Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder on Tuesday called for a grand jury review of a controversial case of alleged rape in Maryville."The appalling facts in the public record shock the conscience and cry out that responsible authorities must take another look," he said, referring to the case of Daisy Coleman in Nodaway County.
"I hope that responsible officials will join me in this call for a grand jury to make the final call on whether criminal charges should or should not be filed," Kinder said.
Sounds like this case may not be over yet. The Lt. Governor has requested a grand jury be assembled to review the case.
Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder on Tuesday called for a grand jury review of a controversial case of alleged rape in Maryville."The appalling facts in the public record shock the conscience and cry out that responsible authorities must take another look," he said, referring to the case of Daisy Coleman in Nodaway County.
"I hope that responsible officials will join me in this call for a grand jury to make the final call on whether criminal charges should or should not be filed," Kinder said.
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If the Grand Jury indicts, is it possible that the local authorities who dropped the charges could have charges brought against them? If this happened as the KC Star article laid out, those people deserve the full force of the justice system to be leveled against them.
It would be interesting to see what evidence the Prosecutor actually had.
While I agree this reeks of Good Ol' Boy politics at its most deplorable, all we have is a news story, and one side of the story. The Sheriff thinks its a great case, but cops aren't lawyers, and there is definitely a tendency for police to look at a case and see it as a slam dunk, when in reality, that's not how it works out. There could be serious issues that make this case an impossibility at trial.
I don't want to sound like I'm siding with the prosecutor, I'm just saying that there could easily be a lot more to the story in regards to what he did than what we're getting out of this sensational article.
Not unless they took measures to destroy evidence or otherwise obstruct the case. If all they did was drop the charges, they didn't commit a crime. If we made it illegal to drop charges, it would completely cripple our justice system.
While I agree this reeks of Good Ol' Boy politics at its most deplorable, all we have is a news story, and one side of the story. The Sheriff thinks its a great case, but cops aren't lawyers, and there is definitely a tendency for police to look at a case and see it as a slam dunk, when in reality, that's not how it works out. There could be serious issues that make this case an impossibility at trial.
I don't want to sound like I'm siding with the prosecutor, I'm just saying that there could easily be a lot more to the story in regards to what he did than what we're getting out of this sensational article.
Not unless they took measures to destroy evidence or otherwise obstruct the case. If all they did was drop the charges, they didn't commit a crime. If we made it illegal to drop charges, it would completely cripple our justice system.
Absolutely agree. The sheriff's comments in the article about his "flawless" investigation and the DA's comments about not having a case that he could win against reasonable doubt is total *********. The DA had a case put in his lap that had a everything put a pretty little bow tied on it for a conviction and he refused to proceed. As for the sheriff... his flawless investigation was unable to track down the cellphone video that was being passed around the school by half of the student body. How is that possible they couldn't track that down? They have confessions from one of the kids that admitted that one of the girls said "no" multiple times and that he went ahead and had sex with her anyway. The kid freaking admitted it to police. The other girl had a .13 BAC
the morning after the incident. IIRC Missouri law states a person incapacitated by alcohol can't give consent to have sex. Thus there is no possible way based on the evidence and Missouri law that the sex was consensual. The facts as we know them make this case an absolute lock.
This is really scary unless it is incredibly tightly drawn, and incapacitated is defined as "being unconscious and unable to speak", as opposed to merely "intoxicated".
Well considering her BAC 9 hours later was still well over the legal limit (and she was 14, clearly under the drinking age), I don't really think it's a question that she would have been completely incapacitated the night before. Plus you know, witnesses saying she was saying no and the whole too intoxicated to get into her house thing.
I totally agree that it all depends on how closely they define "incapacitated". This quote from the other girl could be pretty big in that regard...
"After he was done and we went out to the living room, we sat and waited for Matt to come out with Daisy. And he opened the door and I saw Daisy and she was incoherent -- couldn't talk, couldn't walk, couldn't do anything," Paige told CNN on Tuesday night.
It sounds like in this case she met that definition of incapicitated, but how many times have two people gotten drunk and had a regrettable, yet fully conensual sexual encounter?
This staute could criminalize that, and that seems to be an insane over reach.
This staute could criminalize that, and that seems to be an insane over reach.
I live in Maryville. This has zero to do with Maryville and it's football team and everything to do with a known p.o.s. kid and his family's political ties. The county attorney down here is a spineless coward who prosecutes NWMSU students to the fullest on things like pot charges then spends the rest of his time rubbing shoulders with the Todd Akin's of the world. I really hope they do something about this.
I get what you're going for, but I don't think it would suddenly result in a spike of rape claims by women who had one too many and regretted it in the morning. Rape is already hugely under-reported because the process is no fun for a woman, and our society doesn't exactly tend to treat those women nicely. A lot of the cases that do get reported end in he-said she-said, and that's about all there would be to go off of in a case of consensual-but-drunk-sex.
I must be naive because when I read about the Stubenville case, I figured that was so awful that type of thing must be unusual. But it is probably more common than I would like to believe. Which is an incredibly sad commentary on society.
I also think that this brings out an idea that won't be popular on here, but I really think that this is the type thing is very typical of small towns. Small towns are cliquish and don't like outsiders. There is good and bad in small towns and bigger cities, but I really don't think one is better than the other.
I also think that this brings out an idea that won't be popular on here, but I really think that this is the type thing is very typical of small towns. Small towns are cliquish and don't like outsiders. There is good and bad in small towns and bigger cities, but I really don't think one is better than the other.
I am not sure how I feel about this case. These girls may have very well been raped, but it sounds more like two barely teen girls getting drunk for the first time, hanging out with the older ''cool'' kids for the first time, wanting to impress these guys, made a poor decision to get drunk that led to them having sex with two boys, then regretting it immediately. Why would that girl go to bed and just leave her friend outside? That really doesn't make sense. My guess is if the girl outside had gone inside and went to bed, we wouldn't be discussing this. I'm guessing her mother freaked out and the girl didn't want her mother to know what really happened and cried rape. On the other hand, if these girls were really raped, than it's just another example of how ****** our justice system is.
From the original kc star article, the boy admitted the 13 year old said no several times..
