Oh I agree it didn’t sound great. It wasn’t a good PR move by him whatsoever. Even though he was standing up for a player, there were lot of better ways to do that than he did.
Matt Campbell postgame quote
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The kicks hit the upright on both occasions. The fact that a coach doesn’t have confidence enough to go back to you on a 38 yd FG likely does more damage long term.
I disagree with that. In hockey if a goalie is getting shelled, he gets pulled so his confidence isn't shattered for the next game. Sometimes its just not your day, let someone else handle the duties that day.
I seriously hope you aren’t suggesting that in football, of all sports, the kickers fee-fees are more important than get the team a W. Get the W, worry about fee-fees later.
I bet our nonexistent offense that everyone hates would have gained the first down and then scored in a minute.
Depends on the kid. Secondly it depends on the situation. People talk as though it was a foregone conclusion that if we pick up the 4th and 1 at the 21 that we automatically score a TD. What if three plays later it is 4th and 7 and you are now forced to go back to this same kicker for a 34 yd FG that you just passed on from 38.
I’m not suggesting he makes the decision based on the kicker’s feeling. I think those people that think getting 4th and 1 at the 21 automatically equates to a TD are wrong. Good chance you need the kicker again after passing over him for a 38 yd FG.
It was 4th and 1/2 yard and it's more the lack of 'let's ****ing go!' that was more bothersome.
'Sneak' should be automatic and what was worse was ISU waffling around for 30 seconds instead of just getting up and earning three more plays.
Because there is a difference between "getting rattled" and missing a shot/kick because form is off or over compensating.
Just don't believe the stage was too big and nerves got to him.
Lol just ignore him. He's just playing that weird forum "gotcha" game and trolling you. Successfully, I might add. People like that aren't worth speaking to.
After a couple days and calming down (acceptance phase after depression?), Coach Campbell gets a mulligan on this. Heck, he gets 5 mulligans. He is the best thing to happen to ISU football in a very long time.
You are correct. And more than likely with the way the offense is playing they wouldn't have scored a TD. But what if those extra 4 yards mean it doesn't go "doink"? Always try and get a kicker closer. It's like that from HS to the pro's.
Stalled is a correct term for what we are seeing this year, and at different times last year. IMO.
Counterpoint. Check. I understand.
Yup, this is where I am. I guess the season could still turn around, and if it does great! Does it seem like it will with our play and play calling? Nope, not really.
And the other Big 12 coaches, many being newer ones, are seemingly passing us by in scheme and creativity (offensively). I too would love to see "some adjustments and variations of any type". I think we can do better.
Good point.
Another good point. I can straddle the fence, yes I can.
That's kind of where I am at now. I'm straddling the fence. Campbell has earned a ton of good will. On the other hand I don't see too much creativity or great play calling with our offensive scheme.
It just seems a little more difficult to believe Campbell when he says things like we are just "this close" to turning it around. Some of his coach-speak is losing meaning. We just lost to the two Kansas schools, both of whom have better offenses than we do currently. Give them credit, but...
The remaining schedule does not look good for any likely wins, the way we are playing (defense excepted). It sure doesn't seem like we are "this close".
I'm trying to be patient. Usually I'm one of the 'supportive' ones. I'll hang in there. What else is there?
Has ISU ever under CMC seemed to handle the hurry-up offense well? And looked poised in the 2 minute drill?
I love the lack of penalties in the tenure. Shows coaching and discipline.
But golly, can we look like we have the ability to move and score quickly if possible?
Related, does it seem like ISU has a full package dedicated to just passing? I mean, for those times when you gotta throw, period. No doubt, just go, go, go? Because I can't remember seeing what looks like one from this group.
On the fourth down and less than a yard call - I think we should have gone for the first down. I was yelling at the TV at the time (out of state) but obviously MC couldn't hear me. Not a negative on our kicker but with 40+ seconds left you should be still trying to win the game, not tying the game. Still time to tie the game later in the drive. The fans, the team and the kicker would all understand this.
On MC's comments - probably some frustration showing but I love that he has the entire coaching staff and team's back. In the long run they need that and we'll be a better program for it. Social media is out of control and can be brutal. Worse than 7th grade gossip on the playground back in my day but similar in the intellect of the comments. I would rather he came out and called out the few instead of saying 'fanbase' and I think he wished he phrased it differently but I understand the frustration. Glad he addressed it.
On MC's comments - probably some frustration showing but I love that he has the entire coaching staff and team's back. In the long run they need that and we'll be a better program for it. Social media is out of control and can be brutal. Worse than 7th grade gossip on the playground back in my day but similar in the intellect of the comments. I would rather he came out and called out the few instead of saying 'fanbase' and I think he wished he phrased it differently but I understand the frustration. Glad he addressed it.
More like 60+ seconds left in the game.... and 4th and a foot. With a kicker that's missed 2 FG's already. It's not even a tough decision IMO.... you go for it.
And it you don't make it... you can at least justify your decision by saying your kicker had already missed 2 fairly easy FGs already, and you only needed a foot, AND you were trying to win the game instead of tie it.
If we're looking at what-if postgame scenario, there'd be no reason to mention kicker at all to justify going for it.
If the play-call/execution of the 4th-and-short bombed, fans would've freaked out about THAT, but few would second-guess and say, "FG obviously was better choice."
interesting take. i used to have to listen to ISU FB on the radio, because it was never on tv. BB was even worse, because it was on AM radio at night, and you could barely hear it. i have seen and listened to some really bad football. but i'm the problem, because i get upset when we make stupid mistakes with vastly more talented players/coaches? My father got to see the earl bruce teams while he was attending ISU. but he is a bad fan. still an ISU fan, but he's the problem too, right? . go ahead and look up the win loss records of ISU coaches for the last 50 years.
you know when you see bad plays, and stupid mistakes. so do us "old" cyclone fans. I don't have a woe is me ISU mentality. If i did, I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have been a fan for 40(ish) years, that I can remember, i won't count the 7-8 years when i was so young i didn't know what was going on.
signed, awful ISU fan
