Let's have a serious discussion about CPR
- Thread starter CyFanInChiLand
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Are you worried about winning less than 2 games a year? Anything under 6 really doesn't matter
CycloneErik
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That is such an awful argument.
We can't count on coming close to a winning season now, so keeping on keeping on is the smart move, because we know what we get. Great idea.
Just type "We are Iowa State" to finish off that argument.
I have always thought Rhoads and the staff he has put together are a good group of coaches, organizationally and in teaching the game. They have never recruited the kind of speed or depth that they need to make ISU a consistent winner, but I disagree these are bad coaches.
I do think there comes a time when a coach no longer has credibility with his players or the broad base of his program's fans. I do not think that is where we are right now.
I do think there comes a time when a coach no longer has credibility with his players or the broad base of his program's fans. I do not think that is where we are right now.
His fate could depend on Tucker's health. NT is the single most important job in the 3-4 defense, and you could see it was night at day different without him on the field. Offense needs to click of course also. Sam might just be a lost cause from all the different coaches he's had and hits he's taken. Potential is there, but he just hasn't developed like he should have. I'd think about giving Lanning a chance sometime this year if the offense counties to struggle.
If they get 5 wins I would bring him back, and even if they get 4 wins and are improving I would consider it. It certainly wouldn't hurt even if they only had 4 wins if all of them came from home games, the fans have not had lot of wins for showing up.
My reasoning is this, there are a lot of JUCOS/transfers contributing right now and I think this is the route they need to take in the future to be successful at ISU. Very few coaches would win with only high school kids at ISU, and almost all of them would move on as soon as they can bringing ISU back into the very hard task of finding a coach that can win regularly at ISU. Even Hoiberg realized he couldn't compete at the level he wanted to in basketball with high school kids and they only need 7-8 players, not even close to the number of players in football needed.
I'm not saying to ignore high school players because you can't but they are going to have to focus on JUCOS/Transfers to succeed at ISU.
If the team is improving I would rather give one last chance with the requirement of a bowl game the next year.
My reasoning is this, there are a lot of JUCOS/transfers contributing right now and I think this is the route they need to take in the future to be successful at ISU. Very few coaches would win with only high school kids at ISU, and almost all of them would move on as soon as they can bringing ISU back into the very hard task of finding a coach that can win regularly at ISU. Even Hoiberg realized he couldn't compete at the level he wanted to in basketball with high school kids and they only need 7-8 players, not even close to the number of players in football needed.
I'm not saying to ignore high school players because you can't but they are going to have to focus on JUCOS/Transfers to succeed at ISU.
If the team is improving I would rather give one last chance with the requirement of a bowl game the next year.
I agree that JUCO recruiting is probably our best plan of action going forward, let's remember weve not exactly had a great track record with many of them. It feels like over half of the JUCOs we sign never male it to campus of leave fairly quickly.
This is the case with JUCOs everywhere. There is a reason they are at a JUCO in the first place.
What if it isn't a destination job? Bring in a proven winner, change the culture, have it set up so when coach does move on someone can step in a keep the ball rolling. This whole we will always suck at football is getting old. Hell as bad as last year was that team had a shot at 6 to 7 wins. The same goes for when Mac was the coach, so many games he had a shot in and couldn't get it done.
You are correct. They should pay the coaches more while they are coaching instead of paying them a lot once they are fired.
Re-rolling those dice costs a little more than your typical game of craps. Who's gonna keep paying for buy-outs?
How many times do you need to see the same **** over and over again to realize CPR is not getting the job done?
If you subscribe to that line of thinking then just write up a lifetime contract for Rhoads. ISU has been a **** poor program since...forever, you really think a couple more losing seasons are going to make a difference? If he can't get the job done its time to get someone else in here. The new guy might suck too, but we already know the current guy sucks. 2 losses to 1-AA schools (almost 3), 1 winning season (his FIRST, 2-10 in year 6, 6.5 point underdog to a MAC school in year 7. How delusional do you have to be to think that Rhoads is suddenly going to "figure it out"?
I saw at least one person say it but I am going to continue, who are we going to get that will be better than Rhoads? Even if we do, they won't stick around long if they are somewhat successful (IE 2 years of 5-6 win seasons). ISU is not, and never will be, a destination job for 99% of coaches. Rhoads is in that 1% that will stay here. The last few seasons have sucked but a lot of it was because of the Messingham promotion. We have the right staff in place and we are getting better. That is all we can ask as fans. I don't know about the rest of you but yesterday was a fun game! It definitely would have been more fun if we had won but newsflash, the season isn't over. We still have 10 games left and if the ball goes our way this year, unlike last year, we still have a good shot at making a bowl.
