Whats your guys feelings on Alex Thompson? Last year he won the Big 10 for Iowa still didnt get anymore playing time. I really dont see him getting much playing time here either.
feelings on alex thompson
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ 07-03-06 3:07 pm) [post=6348]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> yeah but its rashons team. [/b][/quote]
I think he will prove to be a wasted scholie.
I think he will prove to be a wasted scholie.
Give him a chance. From what I have seen in the summer league, he will definitely play and have an impact. This red shirt year could be huge for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ 07-03-06 3:07 pm) [post=6348]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> yeah but its rashons team. [/b][/quote] Actually, it's Iowa State's team, coached by Greg McDermott. Rahshon is one of the players on the team.
Not to be snitty, but I don't understand this "it's player X's team" mentality. I think that sort of thinking results in the kind of team we saw last season.
Not to be snitty, but I don't understand this "it's player X's team" mentality. I think that sort of thinking results in the kind of team we saw last season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ 07-03-06 2:57 pm) [post=6345]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> Whats your guys feelings on Alex Thompson? Last year he won the Big 10 for Iowa still didnt get anymore playing time.[/b][/quote]
Playing for G-Mac will do a lot for Thompson. He has been able to make quality post players out of guys like Gruber, Stout & Coleman. None was rated as high as Thompson or Marsden.
The arguement that Thompson isn't good because he didn't get any PT at Iowa is pretty thin. He didn't play because he couldn't beat out Greg Brunner. There aren't many kids who would beat out Greg Brunner. If Greg Brunner's on my team he plays 32-35 mpg- not many minutes for a back-up. Add to that Thomas & Hanson were seniors and the sophomore Thompson isn't going to get many minutes.
Thompson doesn't need to be a superstar to be a good pick-up for ISU. I think he'll start, but even if he plays 15-20mpg and can hold his own in the paint- he's worth the scholarship.
Playing for G-Mac will do a lot for Thompson. He has been able to make quality post players out of guys like Gruber, Stout & Coleman. None was rated as high as Thompson or Marsden.
The arguement that Thompson isn't good because he didn't get any PT at Iowa is pretty thin. He didn't play because he couldn't beat out Greg Brunner. There aren't many kids who would beat out Greg Brunner. If Greg Brunner's on my team he plays 32-35 mpg- not many minutes for a back-up. Add to that Thomas & Hanson were seniors and the sophomore Thompson isn't going to get many minutes.
Thompson doesn't need to be a superstar to be a good pick-up for ISU. I think he'll start, but even if he plays 15-20mpg and can hold his own in the paint- he's worth the scholarship.
If he is good enough to push our other bigs in practice it may be a good investment, let alone what else he contributes on the floor in the future.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(isucy86 @ 07-03-06 5:02 pm) [post=6359]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Playing for G-Mac will do a lot for Thompson. He has been able to make quality post players out of guys like Gruber, Stout & Coleman. None was rated as high as Thompson or Marsden.
The arguement that Thompson isn't good because he didn't get any PT at Iowa is pretty thin. He didn't play because he couldn't beat out Greg Brunner. There aren't many kids who would beat out Greg Brunner. If Greg Brunner's on my team he plays 32-35 mpg- not many minutes for a back-up. Add to that Thomas & Hanson were seniors and the sophomore Thompson isn't going to get many minutes.
Thompson doesn't need to be a superstar to be a good pick-up for ISU. I think he'll start, but even if he plays 15-20mpg and can hold his own in the paint- he's worth the scholarship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(isucy86 @ 07-03-06 5:02 pm) [post=6359]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Playing for G-Mac will do a lot for Thompson. He has been able to make quality post players out of guys like Gruber, Stout & Coleman. None was rated as high as Thompson or Marsden.
The arguement that Thompson isn't good because he didn't get any PT at Iowa is pretty thin. He didn't play because he couldn't beat out Greg Brunner. There aren't many kids who would beat out Greg Brunner. If Greg Brunner's on my team he plays 32-35 mpg- not many minutes for a back-up. Add to that Thomas & Hanson were seniors and the sophomore Thompson isn't going to get many minutes.
Thompson doesn't need to be a superstar to be a good pick-up for ISU. I think he'll start, but even if he plays 15-20mpg and can hold his own in the paint- he's worth the scholarship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(goonies_89 @ 07-03-06 3:07 pm) [post=6348]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> yeah but its rashons team. [/b][/quote]
We'll have to see if this is Rashon's team. Sure he is our most experienced player returning, but that doesn't mean much with a new head coach. I'm sure G-Mac will look to Rashon for leadership, but I'm not buying that this will be "Rashon's team" for a couple reasons:
We'll have to see if this is Rashon's team. Sure he is our most experienced player returning, but that doesn't mean much with a new head coach. I'm sure G-Mac will look to Rashon for leadership, but I'm not buying that this will be "Rashon's team" for a couple reasons:
- Rashon's game doesn't lend himself to being "the" leader on the floor. In his ISU career he hasn't shown to be a player who will have the ball in his hands a lot. One could argue that with Stinson & Blalock on the team, Clark didn't have the opportunity to be a leader. However, I would argue until he becomes a "go-to" player and a guy who can take opponents off the dribble he will be a secondary leader.
- Most coaches like their PG to be the team leader and based on Corey McIntosh's background and success, he will be the team leader.
It could be argued that Alex Thompson has not had a quality coach since he transferred from Gilbert H.S after his freshman year. And at Ames high, even with as many as 4 Div 1 players on the team, his coach couldn't get to the state tournament. And of course we all know about Alford and the great success story he has written at Iowa U. We could be pleasantly surprised by Alex.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Oldgeezer @ 07-03-06 5:35 pm) [post=6363]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> It could be argued that Alex Thompson has not had a quality coach since he transferred from Gilbert H.S ... And of course we all know about Alford and the great success story he has written at Iowa U. We could be pleasantly surprised by Alex. [/b][/quote] As much as it pains me to say this, because I have no repect for Alford, Alex Thompson looks very well coached. By that, I mean that he seems very fundamentally sound. He's plays smart defense, and he makes smart decisions when the ball's in his hands. He is way ahead of our bigs in all areas of his game. I think he will flourish under McD, who will find ways to use him effectively.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cygoat @ 07-03-06 7:17 pm) [post=6365]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> As much as it pains me to say this, because I have no repect for Alford, Alex Thompson looks very well coached. By that, I mean that he seems very fundamentally sound. He's plays smart defense, and he makes smart decisions when the ball's in his hands. He is way ahead of our bigs in all areas of his game. I think he will flourish under McD, who will find ways to use him effectively. [/b][/quote]
I have to agree..not because Alford is a good coach, but because Morgan was just a plain bad one. Non of our bigmen got any coaching last year so you cant expect them to be any better than Thompson. No matter how bad of coaching he had atleast he had some. Our big men didnt. That will change though.
I have to agree..not because Alford is a good coach, but because Morgan was just a plain bad one. Non of our bigmen got any coaching last year so you cant expect them to be any better than Thompson. No matter how bad of coaching he had atleast he had some. Our big men didnt. That will change though.
Pissed that we wasted a schollie on him so quickly.
Should have made him prove that he wants to be a Cyclone by making him pay his way for the first year of being at ISU while he can't play. If after that he still wanted to be there, then put him on schollie. We just handed it to him right away even after he stiffed us originally to go to the hated rival.
Should have made him prove that he wants to be a Cyclone by making him pay his way for the first year of being at ISU while he can't play. If after that he still wanted to be there, then put him on schollie. We just handed it to him right away even after he stiffed us originally to go to the hated rival.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ISUAlum2002 @ 07-04-06 8:07 am) [post=6379]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> Pissed that we wasted a schollie on him so quickly.
Should have made him prove that he wants to be a Cyclone by making him pay his way for the first year of being at ISU while he can't play. If after that he still wanted to be there, then put him on schollie. We just handed it to him right away even after he stiffed us originally to go to the hated rival.
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Why would you be pissed about this year's schollie when we are not using all of this year's schollie's anyway. Alex is the best big man we have from watching in summer league and he would be starting this year if he didn't have to sit out.
Should have made him prove that he wants to be a Cyclone by making him pay his way for the first year of being at ISU while he can't play. If after that he still wanted to be there, then put him on schollie. We just handed it to him right away even after he stiffed us originally to go to the hated rival.
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Why would you be pissed about this year's schollie when we are not using all of this year's schollie's anyway. Alex is the best big man we have from watching in summer league and he would be starting this year if he didn't have to sit out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cyclonerich @ 07-04-06 11:21 am) [post=6380]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'>
Why would you be pissed about this year's schollie when we are not using all of this year's schollie's anyway. Alex is the best big man we have from watching in summer league and he would be starting this year if he didn't have to sit out.
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Because we should make his ass prove that he wants to be a Cyclone rather than just giving him a free meal ticket because he doesn't want to be a part of the Fighting Alfords now. He's not a good enough player to just hand over free tuition and board for a year after snubbing us the first time for our arch rival.
Why would you be pissed about this year's schollie when we are not using all of this year's schollie's anyway. Alex is the best big man we have from watching in summer league and he would be starting this year if he didn't have to sit out.
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Because we should make his ass prove that he wants to be a Cyclone rather than just giving him a free meal ticket because he doesn't want to be a part of the Fighting Alfords now. He's not a good enough player to just hand over free tuition and board for a year after snubbing us the first time for our arch rival.
so Fizer wasnt the leader? Rashon had to play with Stinson. Stinson who was the self proclaimed leader from day 1. Wont know till the season starts.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ISUAlum2002 @ 07-04-06 11:27 am) [post=6381]Quoted post[/post]</div><div class='quotemain'> Because we should make his ass prove that he wants to be a Cyclone rather than just giving him a free meal ticket because he doesn't want to be a part of the Fighting Alfords now. He's not a good enough player to just hand over free tuition and board for a year after snubbing us the first time for our arch rival.[/b][/quote] Should ISU institute this as a general policy? I.e., any student who was offered a scholarship by ISU but chose instead to accept a scholarship from UofI, and who then decides later that ISU is really the right choice, should be penalized a year of the scholarship just to prove their true allegiance to ISU? I'm sorry, but the thought makes me laugh out loud.
I guess I'm willing to accept that he very much wants to be a Cyclone and don't think he needs any special tests to "prove" it. Switching schools is a huge change that isn't taken lightly. I believe that at heart he really wants to be a Cyclone, just like Haluska really wanted to be a Hawkeye and play with his friends. I don't hold a grudge against people who decide to make a change that better suits them. It's better for everyone all around.
I guess I'm willing to accept that he very much wants to be a Cyclone and don't think he needs any special tests to "prove" it. Switching schools is a huge change that isn't taken lightly. I believe that at heart he really wants to be a Cyclone, just like Haluska really wanted to be a Hawkeye and play with his friends. I don't hold a grudge against people who decide to make a change that better suits them. It's better for everyone all around.
