Do you want Campbell gone?

[RagingCloner]

Cause those teams are so much worse than Texas Tech, Kansas, West Virginia, etc.. get ******* real. We are like Minnesota at best. How in the hell is our program any better than Illinois right now? JFC you people are delusional. You're point is that Iowa only goes to bowl games because they are in the Big 10 west yet they absolutely piss pound us every year. Not sure what logic you are using here. Doesn't appear to be any. So we are either even more mediocre than you claim Iowa is or Iowa must actually be pretty good. It's oneof the 2.

Oh boy, do you really not know? To start with, in the last 8 years, we've won 16 more games than they have, excluding this year. We've played in 5 bowls, they have 2. We've been ranked for a majority of 5 of those last 8 years, UL has been ranked once.

Since CMC has been here, we've played 22 ranked conference opponents. Conversely, Iowa has played 15-17, I may have lost count somewhere. BUT only 7 of those have been B10 West teams. Iowa goes to bowls because they win games. They win games because they are in the B10 West. Not the only reason, but it helps a ton. They will find this out the hard way next year. We lose to Iowa because too often we try to play their brand of football. Typically that doesnt work because they've been doing it for a hundred years, we've done it for 5 minutes. As far as being piss pounded, other than CMCs first year in 2016, the point differential is barely greater than a field goal. Not exactly what I would call being "piss pounded".

FWIW, if these CMC teams played in the B10 west, it would shock me to not average 7-8 wins every year, but this is just speculation on my part

 

[JP4CY]

Seems I've struck a nerve with my post.

Yes, the athletic department does follow up with season ticket holders in club seating. Especially when they've had season tickets for a long period of time. His concern was that I hadn't inadvertently missed a deadline. Just a professional courtesy. He acknowledged my concern.

No, I don't expect JP to fire CMC over me dropping my season tickets.

Yes, they still have my contact information.

Get some self respect if you can't see how CMC is being disrespectful to you and the University.

Have a nice day.

Seems like dozens of people are asking you the same thing and you won't just answer.

 

[RagingCloner]

Darkstar's issue has to be black uniform related.

Dark Star is slang for butthole, which is exactly where some of his statements come from

 

[Gunnerclone]

How many 7 win seasons does Iowa State have in the last 20 years? And which coach has those wins?

McCarney has 2 seasons. 2004 and 2005 in a depleted North Division that did not play Texas and Oklahoma in each season.

Paul Rhoads has 1 season. 2009 in the North Division that did not play Texas and Oklahoma.

Matt Campbell has 5 seasons. First year and last year were the only times he hasn’t won 7 games. Round robin conference schedule. Play Texas and Oklahoma every year.

Campbell has been remarkable. But to say 7 wins to be the least you will accept is sheer stupidity. Campbell‘s success is being taken for granted. Nothing is easy in a sparsely populated state with 2 Division 1 Universities.

How many years have we played with no OuT while adding a bunch of G5 schools and 3/4 crappy PAC teams? Things change.

 

[Stormin]

How many years have we played with no OuT while adding a bunch of G5 schools and 3/4 crappy PAC teams? Things change.

Campbell and Iowa State have the potential to do well in the new Big 12. That’s the future.

 

[CyDude16]

Seems I've struck a nerve with my post.

Yes, the athletic department does follow up with season ticket holders in club seating. Especially when they've had season tickets for a long period of time. His concern was that I hadn't inadvertently missed a deadline. Just a professional courtesy. He acknowledged my concern.

No, I don't expect JP to fire CMC over me dropping my season tickets.

Yes, they still have my contact information.

Get some self respect if you can't see how CMC is being disrespectful to you and the University.

Have a nice day.

I have plenty of self respect, enough to see how absurd it is to say cmc has disrespected us, traditions, or the university.

You can’t even provide examples, coward.

 

[CyDude16]

The one thing that irritates me more than anything is how many times he constantly talks about how hard it is to win here. Yes, we get it. Its not Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, etc. And he's done a great job.

But I don't need to get hit the face every other press conference about it. Just like if I ever got married I wouldn't expect my wife to constantly tell me "you're a hard man to love". Its a true statement but if I'm told every day I'm an ugly mug, eventually, I'm not going to be as fond of the person telling me that.

Occasionally, that reminder is fine. But the constant reminder is a bit grating but that's just me. I think 95%+ Iowa State fans are well aware without the "a place like this or what we need to win here" etc... he's not wrong, I just don't know what purpose is that it serves anymore.

Certainly he understands what it takes, the players largely understand what it takes, the fans largely understand, etc. So I guess other than those who think we should win 9 games a year, of which I don't think there are many, I'm not sure who he's talking to. He's done a great job all in all but I'm not ignoring something if it appears there's a problem.
Appreciate everything he and staff have done but won't turn a blind eye. Both can be true.


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That said, he's shown me everything I needed to see. I had a question of how stubborn he was going to be regarding the offense and how we called plays. He's shown that while he might be stubborn, he's willing to change, at least somewhat. Win, lose, or draw, that's all I wanted to see because that's how a program keeps winning - having a HC shown an ability to adapt and change and pivot from earlier success to maintain success. No matter if you're Iowa State or Bama.

He doesn’t nearly talk about how hard it is to win here as rhoads did. Basically rhoads gave up towards the tail end of his tenure. I haven’t once seen that out of Campbell.

 

[nfrine]

Never have had a coach consistently win 7 games in most years until Campbell. 6-6 seasons even a rarity. But you demand 7 wins. Every year. I say that Campbell gives us our best chance every year. We’ve struggled recently but I’ll give him every opportunity to figure it out. Because no one else has come close to his success at Iowa State. Campbell has a winning Big 12 record at Iowa State. No one else is even close.

To get a coach the caliber of the EIU coach, the bonus needs to kick in at 7 wins....

 

[Gunnerclone]

Campbell and Iowa State have the potential to do well in the new Big 12. That’s the future.

So then 7 wins going forward isn’t insane like you’re trying to portray it?

 

[Aclone]

Dark Star is slang for butthole, which is exactly where some of his statements come from

Actually, Dark Star is a really cool username, if you know the history of Campustown…

But the actual user is currently presenting some historically bad takes.

 

[Stormin]

So then 7 wins going forward isn’t insane like you’re trying to portray it?

We may not get 7 every year but it should definitely be possible. Campbell will have us in the hunt.

 

[CascadeClone]

I said seven wins. Not sure who ever said 8 wins.

I have sat through games with Bruce, Duncan, Criner, McCarney, Rhoads and now Campbell as head coach.

I sort of even remember Johnny Majors as head coach

I have lived and breathed Iowa State football

And I still say 7 wins should be the floor.

Floor as in "never below that, ever"?? That's nuts almost anywhere. Maybe at one of 15 blue blood schools you could say that. But nowhere else. You're gonna have years with injuries and rough schedules. It happens.

Has Kapt Kirk been a success at Iowa? Yes absolutely. Ignoring his first 2 years, he has been 6 wins or less 4 times in 22 seasons. He has AVERAGED 8.3 wins in that same timeframe (7.8 if you include first 2 seasons).

I am not saying we ISU sucks and we should just be happy making it to 6-6. But if you think we ISU is going to average 9 wins a year, and 7 is the FLOOR... that's fantasyland.

 

[Statefan10]

Cause those teams are so much worse than Texas Tech, Kansas, West Virginia, etc.. get ******* real. We are like Minnesota at best. How in the hell is our program any better than Illinois right now? JFC you people are delusional. You're point is that Iowa only goes to bowl games because they are in the Big 10 west yet they absolutely piss pound us every year. Not sure what logic you are using here. Doesn't appear to be any. So we are either even more mediocre than you claim Iowa is or Iowa must actually be pretty good. It's oneof the 2.

I never made the point that Iowa only goes to bowl games because they play in that division. They win 9-10 games most years because of that though. Yeah, we are like Minnesota, except again, we don't play in a division like they do. Also, Iowa doesn't piss pound us every year that is ridiculous. They've handled us 2-3 years, we beat them last year and then every other game has been one score going their way besides CMC's first season.

 

[NWICY]

Actually, Dark Star is a really cool username, if you know the history of Campustown…

But the actual user is currently presenting some historically bad takes.

Wasn't Dark star the video arcade about a block east of Welch?

 

[NWICY]

At least the last few games have been fun to watch. The 1st 3 games this season has me wondering why I spent the money on season tickets.
I don't really buy the team wasn't smart enough to run the plays, I think Campbell didn't want to change a thing but finally let Scheelhause start calling some plays and it looks like it is working.

 

[FAFO]

Dark Star is slang for butthole, which is exactly where some of his statements come from

he would say thats disrespectful

 

[OWLCITYCYFAN]

We’ve struggled recently but I’ll give him every opportunity to figure it out. Because no one else has come close to his success at Iowa State.

Not true - Earle Bruce struggled his first three seasons at ISU, then turned the corner and won 8 games in seasons 4, 5 & 6. He had a winning record in the Big 8 over those final three seasons and an overall winning record for his six year tenure. His four losses in 1978 were all to ranked teams, #1 Oklahoma, #10 Nebraska, #15 Missouri and a bowl opponent. He beat EIU 31-0 in 1978. The Big 8 was arguably the top football conference in the land and Bruce had lesser facilities and support. Even so, he got it done at ISU and per another poster on the board, was willing to stay if ISU would pony up the cash, which sadly didn’t happen. I know - ancient history - sadly I was there for the OU loss in 1978 (and many others over the years). Those Switzer and Osborne teams were incredible…

 

[Stormin]

Not true - Earle Bruce struggled his first three seasons at ISU, then turned the corner and won 8 games in seasons 4, 5 & 6. He had a winning record in the Big 8 over those final three seasons and an overall winning record for his six year tenure. His four losses in 1978 were all to ranked teams, #1 Oklahoma, #10 Nebraska, #15 Missouri and a bowl opponent. He beat EIU 31-0 in 1978. The Big 8 was arguably the top football conference in the land and Bruce had lesser facilities and support. Even so, he got it done at ISU and per another poster on the board, was willing to stay if ISU would pony up the cash, which sadly didn’t happen. I know - ancient history - sadly I was there for the OU loss in 1978 (and many others over the years). Those Switzer and Osborne teams were incredible…

Earle Bruce did not have a winning CONFERENCE record. Campbell does. And Campbell has wins over EVERY Conference team. Earle never ever beat OU. Earle is a great coach. Campbell is better.

I was also at the 1978 game against OU. Billy Sims was fantastic. 34-6 blowout.

 

[DrShip]

Seems to be a lot of focus on what number of wins/losses we should settle for, but I think that's the wrong way to look at things. I think Iowa State is always going to be one of those teams where you could have a real stinker of a season; most everybody but OSU, Alabama, Georgia is that type of team. I would think if we had one dud, 1 championship run, and 3 seasons with 6-9 wins every 5 year period most people on this forum would be pretty happy.

They key is keeping us competitive and willingness to change. We've been competitive in almost every game during Campbell's tenure, and he has shown willingness to change when things aren't working. After games like Ohio he definitely deserves criticism, but lets not pretend he's not on the hot seat for losing to a MAC program, and he probably never will be.

I guess some people might think that's a loser attitude, but if you're going to expect to be a contender for conference or national championships at Iowa State very year, you're going to have a bad time. There's a team to the east where that level of delusion fits in much better.

*Edit for typos.

 

[atlantacyclone]

We might have lost some games lately… but the way we are losing is nothing like the past. We are in all of these games (except TCU last season.)