David Sims charged
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1) he was dumb, really dumb. Committing the crime was a huge lapse in judgment. I know I wasn't an angel in college, and certainly wouldn't want my grandmother to know about all of my dirty deeds. I think for David though, there's a Johnny Orr quote hiding here.
2) He could plead not guilty and fight this to the hilt. Drag it out for the county, the team, the university, make a show of the whole thing. That does noone any service. So yes, he did something dumb and illegal. He got caught. Now he's owning up to it. And for that, I am grateful.
Bottom line- Sims did something dumb and illegal. I'm still waiting to hear from somebody, anybody, that didn't do something dumb and illegal, especially when they were young. He doesn't deserve any praise, but he will take his medicine from CPR and pay the price for a first offender. The important thing is that he learns from it and goes on to have a good life, which hopefully includes his great talent for playing football.
Videotape has a tendancy to do that. :wink:
I'll buy alot of what you're saying there. Just don't think that "congratulations" is really the right phrase. But he is doing the right thing by not compounding the problem - as you correctly state.
and driving drunk doesn't? It means you are selfish and irresponsible and don't care about endangering others on the road.
I've done some stupid stuff before, but nothing that even touches this on the stupidity scale.
Hell in college I was all about trying to deposit a fake amount in the ATM deposit and turn around and withdraw it. Then I found out how an ATM works and found out it wouldn't work.
LOL. You don't get it, do you?
The issue isn't about bringing up Iowa ... it's about recognizing HYPOCRISY! Good grief Charlie Brown .... :wacko:
It's not even close to as bad. Sure, it's a mark against your good character to steal. But that just means that maybe people won't trust you. It's not going to hurt anyone but you. Driving drunk can get someone killed.
We could debate that, but I agree that crime is poor as well. And when that kid got nothing, ISU fans cried foul about it.
Some do get it...but claim they don't because admitting they understand why would be admittance of their own hypocritical nature.
You're about to get *****-slapped so hard your unborn great, great grandchildren will feel it. But hypocrisy is exactly my point. Yes, I hate it when fans obsess over Iowa. This isn't about Iowa, it's about drawing comparisons to a like univeristy that fans routinely complain about how they handle their off-field issues.
The same fans for calling Iowa "CrimeU" and that KF was way too soft - are now claiming what Sims didn't isn't that bad and at least he's really, really sorry now that he got caught.
By no means do I think we should kick him off the team. But the way people are defending his actions here is sad.
I think there is plenty of hypocrisy around yes, but I think you are leaving one part out. giving Iowa fans crap, and vice versa
Just like how Iowa fans call us Moo U, etc, it's all in jest, like when people call Iowa "CrimeU". Do most people actually think players should seriously be suspended for several games or get the boot for an MIP?
I would imagine plenty of Iowa fans will make credit card jokes this year, even if they don't think what Sims did was that bad, and ISU fans will continue to laugh at Binns, Hampton, etc, even if they don't believe any of what happened is unforgivable.
Let's not forget that Iowa has had more trouble with the law than ISU recently (past 2 or 3 years). That is part of the reason ISU fans have thought that Kirk's penalties should be stiffer.
I agree that too many ISU fans are being hypocrites, but all fanbases have hypocrites...especially when it comes to judging their rival.
NO ONE is defending Sims' actions. He is wrong. He committed a crime.
What we are arguing over is the severity of the penalty imposed.
Sims is a FIRST time offender. Sims made restitution. Sims is willing to admit his guilt and pay the penalty imposed and submit to probation.
That is a reasonable penalty for a FIRST time offender.
For the football aspect of his penalty. CPR has stated that he will be stripped of his Captain status. And it is said that he will be given a 1 game suspension.
For a first time offender that is a reasonable penalty IMO.
You can argue that the penalties should be more severe. But DO NOT suggest that everyone is defending Sims' actions in this matter. THAT is not true.
