Not to be callous about today's events, but in terms of "things that kill Americans that we could prevent by throwing billions of dollars at it", I think a previous poster has shown that the threat is already pretty damn minimal.
Chattanooga Shooting
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Not to be callous about today's events, but in terms of "things that kill Americans that we could prevent by throwing billions of dollars at it", I think a previous poster has shown that the threat is already pretty damn minimal.
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Re: Chttaooga Shooting
depends on the level of "inspiration" I suppose. If under orders, then yes. If acting alone, then I'm not sure.
If a similar incident was perpetrated by neo-nazis, would it be international terrorism, since they were inspired by Nazi Germany?
I think a certain amount of coordination would need to be required.
That said, the public doesn't really know enough now to make a call one way or another.
depends on the level of "inspiration" I suppose. If under orders, then yes. If acting alone, then I'm not sure.
If a similar incident was perpetrated by neo-nazis, would it be international terrorism, since they were inspired by Nazi Germany?
I think a certain amount of coordination would need to be required.
That said, the public doesn't really know enough now to make a call one way or another.
Cyclonepride
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If we weren't over there, there's a good chance they wouldn't be over here. Not justifying their actions, but I'm not justifying all of ours either. Some things make sense, but not all.
CycloneErik
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Probably this:
[video=youtube;mxD-5z_xHBU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU[/video]
Two law enforcement officials told CBS News that the shooting suspect was identified as 24-year-old Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez. He was believed to have been born in Kuwait, and it was unclear whether he was a U.S. or Kuwaiti citizen. An official says the suspect is from Hixson, Tennessee, which is just a few miles across the river from Chattanooga.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-police-officer-shot-near-tennessee-army-recruiting-center/
Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez. Does sound muslim.
Always the wise one on these kind of things...
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-30/tallying-right-wing-terror-vs-jihad
I'm glad the media keeps its focus on the things that are actually dangerous to me and my family. You know, try to raise awareness and make things better regarding the factors that actually pose a threat to human life.
Motor vehicle-related fatalities in USA (2014) = 32,719 (about 90 per day)
Suicides in the United States (2014) = 41,149
Of those, how many committed through a firearm = 21,175
Gun-related homicides in the United States (2014) = 11,208
65% of the people die from a gun do it from their own hand
If suicide is an impulse decision, and it is, just having a gun around is a danger in itself... if you actually have to leave your front door to do it, you're much less likely to go through with it
Never mind these things...
- Heart disease: 611,105
- Cancer: 584,881
- Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205
- Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978
- Alzheimer's disease: 84,767
- Diabetes: 75,578
- Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979
- Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Not really blaming the media here. More people for demanding a debate/coverage of freak, hit-by-lightning events rather than the quixotic, day-to-day realities of guns (and the dangers they might pose) relative to the things that are actually dangers to us (cardiovascular disease, respiratory illnesses, cancer, car accidents, suicide--via firearms, etc.).
From 2001-2009 there were 3800 American deaths due to terrorism. Not even a blip on the radar eh? Not sure why this is getting any attention at all.
If the person who killed the good people in the church was recruited online by the KKK, would the FBI or local law be tracking them down and taking them to trial? Answer is YES. So the same should be done with those that are recruiting radicals on the basis of religion.
They guy in Colorado is a bad example to use, he had no political or social reason. Just killed anyone there.
I agree with one of the analysts I saw on TV the other day.... it is not the Muslim religion itself that is the problem.... it is mentally unstable people that want to kill, and they become Muslims in order to use that as an excuse to do the killing they wanted to do anyway, even before becoming Muslim.
That isn't always the case obviously, but a lot of these killers have recently joined the Muslim religion.... or more specifically an extremist Muslim group like ISIS or Al Qaeda.
That isn't always the case obviously, but a lot of these killers have recently joined the Muslim religion.... or more specifically an extremist Muslim group like ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Religious fundamentalism, wherever it comes from, has always been a source of evil during the history of civilization. Thoughtful conservatives owe it to our country to be honest about that, and point out when they see many GOP presidential candidates favoring a fundamentalist government in this country. Likewise thoughtful liberal leaning voters owe it to our country to drop this fairy tale notion that Islam is not any more likely to foster radical violent fundamentalists than other religions, or that Islamic states don't suppress their people in general more than other nations.
I don't know that we can stop what is clearly wrong in the Muslim world by occupying it. I say we do what we can to stomp out religious fundamentalism in our own government, protect ourselves and our allies, and form strong alliances with countries in that part of the world who have a serious desire to end terror, increase human rights and have democratic societies. It may be as simple as two wrongs don't make a right, even if we were morally right for being a permanent middle east empire, it's economically wrong when that money could be invested in America's future.
I agree with isuno1fan. We just need to start a war with every country and take them over so instead of "Earth" it's just one giant USA. That will solve the problem and everyone will live harmoniously together, just like they do in the current USA.
