CB Loves Haters

[Clonefan32]

Maybe tonight on the basketball court in a live game would be a real swell place to start.

Craig is also the leader of this team. Greg is the head coach, takes a ton of crap for the poor record and most don't have an issue with it (aside from the extreme stuff). Craig should be able to handle it as well. I know it's a sin for many to say anything uncomplimentary about Craig - but he's not been near the force we expected and needed him to be this season - and it's not just some of his own fans taking notice of it.

In the grand scheme, yes it's just a shirt. But it reflects this less-than-great attitude that seems to show on the court.

This is him not handling it well? Wearing a shirt to shoot-around?

Not handling it well is being John Wall and making a public statement that you don't listen to your coach. Not handling it well is Colvin walking out on his team and coach during a post-game speech. Not handling it well is hauling off to the Motherland halfway through the year.

You're looking WAY to far into this. I personally kind of like it. I am sure it is a stressful and tense time right now for Craig, I'm glad he has some amount of levity about it.

 

[ISUPoker]

Remember the last time we made a big deal about someone wearing a shirt (Harrison Barnes wearing an ISU shirt days before signing at UNC).

How'd that work out as far as translating how that person feels?

People need to stop trying to be fortune tellers and reading into things.

 

[Al_4_State]

Apparently t-shirts are a huge deal...so all the topless chicks that get painted that 22 takes pictures of are a bunch of ******* whores, and he's a bad husband for taking those pictures being married and having kids. Maybe instead of calling attention to himself, he should focus on providing the best he can for his family and taking care of them instead of putting off this appearance.

See, I can spout baseless crap too.

Preserved before the delete.

 

[Knownothing]

Apparently t-shirts are a huge deal...so all the topless chicks that get painted that 22 takes pictures of are a bunch of ******* whores, and he's a bad husband for taking those pictures being married and having kids. Maybe instead of calling attention to himself, he should focus on providing the best he can for his family and taking care of them instead of putting off this appearance.

See, I can spout baseless crap too.

Possibly the best post ever. So in one thread I might have seen the worst post ever and the best one ever. This is the greatest thread ever now. I am just going to sit back and hit refresh.

 

[ISUFan22]

Your argument was just that he wasn't showing any dedication to improving, but practice now doesn't count? Please let us and him know exactly when it counts for him to be "trying." I also think he did pretty well in a live game against CU in the second half, after some on this board were saying that they wouldn't even play him if they were coach...

I am a very vocal supporter of Mac, but the difference between Craig and Mac is above $700,000 per year. Nobody is shutting down expressing opinions, but making uninformed comments about CB's dedication is fairly ridiculous - especially when he turned down an NBA career to continue playing for this school. It's especially ridiculous when someone is using a T-shirt as justification for their rants.

It's good we can have an intelligent discussion on the topic, it's clearly something few can to and are unable to separate it from the personal bs.

My issue is, where was he in the first half? I mean, if Hamilton can dominate, Craig should be able to absolutely destroy. Why it took him that long to wake up against a team in a 4 guard line-up, I'll never understand. 1 rebound against KU? I could go on.

The point is, yes - people are being critical of him. But how much of it is actually wrong and unjust? I believe very little.

The t-shirt is by far the justifications, just watching him play is the justification. The t-shirt is just an example of the less-than-great attitude toward correcting the problem.

It's great he's practicing, so is everyone else. But we're into February and we're taking about a guy that everyone expects to be playing in the association next season. What's he going to do in practice at this point that will suddenly get him back to the '08/'09 version of Craig Brackins? It's not like he forgot to play the game or teams are treating him all that differently. He didn't get a setback injury or lose any basketball abilities. It's attitude and we need the Craig that was ****** off in the 2nd half against CU - not the guy paying any attention to "haters".

 

[Cymon]

I'm just glad that Craig isn't wearing a jersey that has the NBA emblem sewn on it.

 

[The_Architect]

There is a serious e-beatdown going on here.

 

[gocubs2118]

Apparently t-shirts are a huge deal...so all the topless chicks that get painted that 22 takes pictures of are a bunch of ******* whores, and he's a bad husband for taking those pictures being married and having kids. Maybe instead of calling attention to himself, he should focus on providing the best he can for his family and taking care of them instead of putting off this appearance.

See, I can spout baseless crap too.

*gets popcorn ready*

 

[sodakjoe]

It's good we can have an intelligent discussion on the topic, it's clearly something few can to and are unable to separate it from the personal bs.

My issue is, where was he in the first half? I mean, if Hamilton can dominate, Craig should be able to absolutely destroy. Why it took him that long to wake up against a team in a 4 guard line-up, I'll never understand. 1 rebound against KU? I could go on.

The point is, yes - people are being critical of him. But how much of it is actually wrong and unjust? I believe very little.

The t-shirt is by far the justifications, just watching him play is the justification. The t-shirt is just an example of the less-than-great attitude toward correcting the problem.

It's great he's practicing, so is everyone else. But we're into February and we're taking about a guy that everyone expects to be playing in the association next season. What's he going to do in practice at this point that will suddenly get him back to the '08/'09 version of Craig Brackins? It's not like he forgot to play the game or teams are treating him all that differently. He didn't get a setback injury or lose any basketball abilities. It's attitude and we need the Craig that was ****** off in the 2nd half against CU - not the guy paying any attention to "haters".

You took a thread that started out as an encouraging "Hey let's go beat Baylor" thread into a "Why Brackins sucks this year" thread. You derailed the whole thread and then got mad at us for calling you out on it.

 

[Angie]

It's good we can have an intelligent discussion on the topic, it's clearly something few can to and are unable to separate it from the personal bs.

My issue is, where was he in the first half? I mean, if Hamilton can dominate, Craig should be able to absolutely destroy. Why it took him that long to wake up against a team in a 4 guard line-up, I'll never understand. 1 rebound against KU? I could go on.

The point is, yes - people are being critical of him. But how much of it is actually wrong and unjust? I believe very little.

The t-shirt is by far the justifications, just watching him play is the justification. The t-shirt is just an example of the less-than-great attitude toward correcting the problem.

It's great he's practicing, so is everyone else. But we're into February and we're taking about a guy that everyone expects to be playing in the association next season. What's he going to do in practice at this point that will suddenly get him back to the '08/'09 version of Craig Brackins? It's not like he forgot to play the game or teams are treating him all that differently. He didn't get a setback injury or lose any basketball abilities. It's attitude and we need the Craig that was ****** off in the 2nd half against CU - not the guy paying any attention to "haters".

How do you know that it's attitude, though? There are all kinds of factors at play - team chemistry, everyone's frustration level, players leaving (increasing the pressure on the remaining ones), and for Brackins, he's staring down hoping that he can perform well enough to still get drafted. I can almost guarantee that he has the desire to perform well, if even for purely selfish reasons - nobody knows what's going on with him. That's my point, is just that nobody knows what's in his head right now, so it's unfair to assume.

 

[Erik4Cy]

Maybe the shirt is a call to EVERYONE out there that we need more haters and people to doubt Craig Brackins. CB thrives off of and therefore has a love (the heart) for Haters. And the reason he hasn't played as well as some expectations of him coming in, its because there was too much hype and love for Craig Brackins out there. There was nothing to motivate him to work harder out there. So needs all the other teams people and even US to "hate" on him so he will totally start dominating college basketball and the big 12 again....OR....maybe it's just a freakin' T-shirt.

 

[ISUPoker]

*gets popcorn ready*

 

[vmbplayer]

It's good we can have an intelligent discussion on the topic, it's clearly something few can to and are unable to separate it from the personal bs.

My issue is, where was he in the first half? I mean, if Hamilton can dominate, Craig should be able to absolutely destroy. Why it took him that long to wake up against a team in a 4 guard line-up, I'll never understand. 1 rebound against KU? I could go on.

The point is, yes - people are being critical of him. But how much of it is actually wrong and unjust? I believe very little.

The t-shirt is by far the justifications, just watching him play is the justification. The t-shirt is just an example of the less-than-great attitude toward correcting the problem.

sorry that chart didn't show up well.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36262

It's great he's practicing, so is everyone else. But we're into February and we're taking about a guy that everyone expects to be playing in the association next season. What's he going to do in practice at this point that will suddenly get him back to the '08/'09 version of Craig Brackins? It's not like he forgot to play the game or teams are treating him all that differently. He didn't get a setback injury or lose any basketball abilities. It's attitude and we need the Craig that was ****** off in the 2nd half against CU - not the guy paying any attention to "haters".

What do you want him to do?

Season Averages
SEASON MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
2007-2008 27.7 11.4 5.0 1.3 1.7 .76 .3 1.0 1.8 .434 .732 .280 1.16
2008-2009 32.5 20.2 9.5 1.3 2.3 .58 .5 .9 2.1 .475 .697 .284 1.26
2009-2010 34.4 16.4 8.0 2.4 2.1 1.16 .6 1.3 2.0 .447 .733 .391 1.22

His points are down an average of less than 2 baskets from last year, while his assists, steals, blocks are all up. His rebounds are down 1.5 but given the increased talent on the team it's understandable that he is down a couple boards and points this year because there are only so many opportunities a game to rack up those stats and there are more people doing that this year.

What exactly has he not provided this year that you seem to think is so bad? Is it the 2.8% drop in FG percentage that has you super interested in the shirt he is wearing in shoot around?

Let's have that discussion you're looking for.

chart http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36262

 

[pulse]

Apparently t-shirts are a huge deal...so all the topless chicks that get painted that 22 takes pictures of are a bunch of ******* whores, and he's a bad husband for taking those pictures being married and having kids. Maybe instead of calling attention to himself, he should focus on providing the best he can for his family and taking care of them instead of putting off this appearance.

See, I can spout baseless crap too.

I need to go make some more popcorn.

 

[ISUFan22]

How do you know that it's attitude, though? There are all kinds of factors at play - team chemistry, everyone's frustration level, players leaving (increasing the pressure on the remaining ones), and for Brackins, he's staring down hoping that he can perform well enough to still get drafted. I can almost guarantee that he has the desire to perform well, if even for purely selfish reasons - nobody knows what's going on with him. That's my point, is just that nobody knows what's in his head right now, so it's unfair to assume.

Because of his body language on the court and the fact that the issues started before other players started dropping. I'm not making assumptions, I'm just going on what I see on the court and this shirt just touched a nerve.

Maybe the shirt is a call to EVERYONE out there that we need more haters and people to doubt Craig Brackins. CB thrives off of and therefore has a love (the heart) for Haters. And the reason he hasn't played as well as some expectations of him coming in, its because there was too much hype and love for Craig Brackins out there. There was nothing to motivate him to work harder out there. So needs all the other teams people and even US to "hate" on him so he will totally start dominating college basketball and the big 12 again....OR....maybe it's just a freakin' T-shirt.

For some I do agree the hype was a bit extreme, but mostly expected him to at least do what he did for us last season. With exceptions to parts of a game here or there, he has yet to dominate a game at all. And we've really needed that from him. Did it plenty last year...and I didn't see a "I love the fans" shirt when people were cheering him on.

 

[Incyte]

I used to wear a co-ed naked billiards t-shirt in high-school. I'm glad the internets had just started and there was no message board around to question my poor work ethic and attitude resulting from said t-shirt.

WTF?

 

[PGreen ISU '92]

Is Craig excelling this year? Is he climbing the draft boards? The answer to those questions is "no" and is also the answer to your question.

You're obviously a "Hater". Maybe you should try loving Craig as much as he loves you.

 

[ISUFan22]

What do you want him to do?

Season Averages
SEASON MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
2007-2008 27.7 11.4 5.0 1.3 1.7 .76 .3 1.0 1.8 .434 .732 .280 1.16
2008-2009 32.5 20.2 9.5 1.3 2.3 .58 .5 .9 2.1 .475 .697 .284 1.26
2009-2010 34.4 16.4 8.0 2.4 2.1 1.16 .6 1.3 2.0 .447 .733 .391 1.22

His points are down an average of less than 2 baskets from last year, while his assists, steals, blocks are all up. His rebounds are down 1.5 but given the increased talent on the team it's understandable that he is down a couple boards and points this year because there are only so many opportunities a game to rack up those stats and there are more people doing that this year.

What exactly has he not provided this year that you seem to think is so bad? Is it the 2.8% drop in FG percentage that has you super interested in the shirt he is wearing in shoot around?

Let's have that discussion you're looking for.

chart Craig Brackins Stats, News, Photos - Iowa State Cyclones - ESPN

Lets see his stats in big games last year vs big games this year. And lets compare stats vs Big 12 last year and Big 12 this year.

 

[Ciclone]

We're talkin' about a t-shirt the guy is wearing in *practice*

 

[Cloned4Life]

ISUFAN22...lol...wow.

I'm with the others. Very, very weird reaction.

It's a friggin tshirt. Probably has nothing to do about anything. It's a friggin novelty tshirt. I have a tshirt that says "Who Farted?" in bold letters on the front. I gave my brother a tshirt that has a picture of George Costanza and a sign that says "Warning: Pool May Cause Shrinkage" ...witty novelty tshirts.

I've been frustrated with Craig on a lot of things this year, and I've expressed that here. What he wears for tshirts, especially the one he has in that picture, is 100% meaningless, and deserves no discussion on a forum like this. Maybe the Off Topic forum?