Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Can this ever end, FFS?
Can this ever end, FFS?
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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Pretty sure it's also been reported that she and her boyfriend have left the state. I really can't imagine why she hasn't been charged with lying to the court and tampering with evidence. Maybe that's why she's long gone, who knows?
Pretty sure it's also been reported that she and her boyfriend have left the state. I really can't imagine why she hasn't been charged with lying to the court and tampering with evidence. Maybe that's why she's long gone, who knows?
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
I whole heartedly agree!
I whole heartedly agree!
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
The part of this whole thing and Leath being so tight lipped about the code of conduct is the part that bothers me. As someone has stated, if Bubu did in fact violate some part of that then why not just say it. Why does it have to be so hush hush if there is a violation. Just seems to me that Leath is throwing his weight around and appears he's trying to hide something.
The part of this whole thing and Leath being so tight lipped about the code of conduct is the part that bothers me. As someone has stated, if Bubu did in fact violate some part of that then why not just say it. Why does it have to be so hush hush if there is a violation. Just seems to me that Leath is throwing his weight around and appears he's trying to hide something.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
The question I keep coming back to is, is the sexual misconduct policy different for student athletes than it is for normal students? If it is, then why was he allowed to remain a student? If its not, why the **** is it not? It should be a zero tolerance policy for everyone in my opinion. As someone already said, that is the million dollar question. The District Court basically said as much as well. Why let him be a student and renew his scholarship if he violated the sexual misconduct policy? Just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
The question I keep coming back to is, is the sexual misconduct policy different for student athletes than it is for normal students? If it is, then why was he allowed to remain a student? If its not, why the **** is it not? It should be a zero tolerance policy for everyone in my opinion. As someone already said, that is the million dollar question. The District Court basically said as much as well. Why let him be a student and renew his scholarship if he violated the sexual misconduct policy? Just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Even if ISU finds a way to justify that kicking him off the team was the right policy, there is no way in hell they can justify why he was allowed to remain on the team until he could no longer transfer, and then kicked off. The longer you drag this on, Leath, the deeper the hole you're digging yourself into.
Cut your losses, admit defeat, and move on, Mr President.
Even if ISU finds a way to justify that kicking him off the team was the right policy, there is no way in hell they can justify why he was allowed to remain on the team until he could no longer transfer, and then kicked off. The longer you drag this on, Leath, the deeper the hole you're digging yourself into.
Cut your losses, admit defeat, and move on, Mr President.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Taxpayer funded stupidity at its finest.
Taxpayer funded stupidity at its finest.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
This x 10000.
If people can't see how this could potentially destroy athletics at Iowa State, then they have blinders on. Maybe it won't in the end, let's all hope, but it certainly isn't going to help any.
You have an administration FIGHTING like crazy to kick a student athlete off of a team that was falsely accused of misconduct and that a court even ruled in favor of as well. If you can't see how that might rub future recruits the wrong way, you have to wake up I'm afraid.
This x 10000.
If people can't see how this could potentially destroy athletics at Iowa State, then they have blinders on. Maybe it won't in the end, let's all hope, but it certainly isn't going to help any.
You have an administration FIGHTING like crazy to kick a student athlete off of a team that was falsely accused of misconduct and that a court even ruled in favor of as well. If you can't see how that might rub future recruits the wrong way, you have to wake up I'm afraid.
CycloneErik
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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Wait, we're losing Fred because of something he agrees with?
Wait, we're losing Fred because of something he agrees with?
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
i cant believe the thread title still hasnt been changed...
i cant believe the thread title still hasnt been changed...
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Huh? That's just general wording in the motion. Fred invited BuBu back on the team, he's been at practice and I think he's also now listed on the roster. What part of that makes you think Fred agrees with what Leath and JP did/
Huh? That's just general wording in the motion. Fred invited BuBu back on the team, he's been at practice and I think he's also now listed on the roster. What part of that makes you think Fred agrees with what Leath and JP did/
CycloneErik
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Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
I wanted to add another twist to the panicked idea of losing Fred.
I wanted to add another twist to the panicked idea of losing Fred.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
But if the court directed ISU to have Bubu join the team, Fred didnt have much of a choice
But if the court directed ISU to have Bubu join the team, Fred didnt have much of a choice
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
After the circus that has now been created by Leathe's decision, who knows what Fred really wants. But the players made it clear they wanted BuBu back, Fred's a player's coach, and he immediately invited BuBu back, not delaying as he could have. Once BuBu was eligible last year he was immediately back on the team and quickly incorporated into the rotation. Think what you want, I think Fred wanted him back, but with the circus that's now been created, who knows what Fred's really thinking. Maybe he did have no choice, it's all just such a travesty of justice and waste of taxpayer money, maybe a lot of taxpayer money if punitive damages are awarded because of the way Leathe has handled this.
After the circus that has now been created by Leathe's decision, who knows what Fred really wants. But the players made it clear they wanted BuBu back, Fred's a player's coach, and he immediately invited BuBu back, not delaying as he could have. Once BuBu was eligible last year he was immediately back on the team and quickly incorporated into the rotation. Think what you want, I think Fred wanted him back, but with the circus that's now been created, who knows what Fred's really thinking. Maybe he did have no choice, it's all just such a travesty of justice and waste of taxpayer money, maybe a lot of taxpayer money if punitive damages are awarded because of the way Leathe has handled this.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Yep. Fred was thrilled to get him back last year, and he had nothing but great things to say about him all summer long. So why wouldn't he not want him back now? Bubu hasn't done anything else wrong since this summer to change Fred's mind.
Fred might not come out and say anything in support of Bubu right now because his superiors wouldn't like it, but deep down I'm sure his feelings towards Bubu haven't changed.
Yep. Fred was thrilled to get him back last year, and he had nothing but great things to say about him all summer long. So why wouldn't he not want him back now? Bubu hasn't done anything else wrong since this summer to change Fred's mind.
Fred might not come out and say anything in support of Bubu right now because his superiors wouldn't like it, but deep down I'm sure his feelings towards Bubu haven't changed.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Hence he "ruled accordingly". He was within his authority to stay the decision and did so. Not sure what "precedent" we are concerned with here. This kind of stuff happens fairly often.
Hence he "ruled accordingly". He was within his authority to stay the decision and did so. Not sure what "precedent" we are concerned with here. This kind of stuff happens fairly often.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
So let me get this straight: an ISU MBB player has sex with his ex-girlfriend, she tells her boyfriend and then files sexual assault charges and falsifies evidence to support the charges. The real legal system dismisses all of this crap not once, but twice, and now the BOR is mad because they didn't get there way. So, as the BOR sees it, sexual assault, is now defining as having sex and they have the right to kick anyone in the athletic department of any of the state schools that has sex off the team based on morning after regrets of the other party.
I do understand where they are coming from, and they should have the right to determine who represents the university, but from all other evidence Bubu is a good student, and a good guy, that got involved with the wrong person. There are a lot of other student athletes at the state universities that are worse representatives of their schools.
So let me get this straight: an ISU MBB player has sex with his ex-girlfriend, she tells her boyfriend and then files sexual assault charges and falsifies evidence to support the charges. The real legal system dismisses all of this crap not once, but twice, and now the BOR is mad because they didn't get there way. So, as the BOR sees it, sexual assault, is now defining as having sex and they have the right to kick anyone in the athletic department of any of the state schools that has sex off the team based on morning after regrets of the other party.
I do understand where they are coming from, and they should have the right to determine who represents the university, but from all other evidence Bubu is a good student, and a good guy, that got involved with the wrong person. There are a lot of other student athletes at the state universities that are worse representatives of their schools.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
Fred has nothing to do with the Bubu 'situation'. If Bubu is allowed on the team, Hoiberg will deal with him within the team. If not, he'll say and do nothing about it. I'm sure Hoiberg isn't counting on having Bubu on the team or letting that change anything he's doing.
Fred has nothing to do with the Bubu 'situation'. If Bubu is allowed on the team, Hoiberg will deal with him within the team. If not, he'll say and do nothing about it. I'm sure Hoiberg isn't counting on having Bubu on the team or letting that change anything he's doing.
Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team
No hair, don't care
Beat KSU
No hair, don't care
Beat KSU
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