Bubu Thread

[temperflare]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

This has nothing to do with Bubu playing basketball at this point. It has everything to do with precedent.

What precedent? That ISU, a state institution, can't just run someone over without just cause? If that is the case then I'm for precedent in this manner!

Not sure the BOR really thought this through. Given how this whole thing has been handled from the onset it really shouldn't surprise anyone that it's gone this far.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

If you can't read and think, it would be a waste of my time. Are you Bubu's mom?

Your comment was vague, and you were called out on it. Your response here is equally vague. Put up or shut up...

 

[clonedude]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Anyone who thinks Leath and especially JP need to resign because of this is an absolute moron. JP has done more for ISU athletics than anyone. Plus if you read the article, and judging by the first 2 pages of posts, you haven't, this is the Iowa BOR not Leath and Pollard. But hey, who needs to actually read the article and have a clue about what they are talking about before spewing misdirected ignorant hate?

So if no recruits at all want to come here and Iowa State athletics falls completely on it's face because of this, you're going to stand by this statement, right? "JP has done SO much for ISU athletics", right?

Ok, I'll hold you to that.

 

[clonedude]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

The "this is MY university, and I can do whatever I want" approach Leath is using is really making him look bad.

Sure, it's the BOR on paper. But ISU can distance itself from this by voicing its disappointment of the BOR decision to take it to the supreme court...just like they've voiced their disapproval before.

But the BOR can fire Leath and JP, right? So I'm not sure we'd see Leath or JP voicing their disagreement with the BOR?

 

[bawbie]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

What precedent? That ISU, a state institution, can't just run someone over without just cause? If that is the case then I'm for precedent in this manner!.

Specifically that the court can stay a university decision regarding athletic team participatio while it is under judicial review.

To state it is some kind if personal vendetta against Bubu is silly and naive.

 

[bawbie]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

So if no recruits at all want to come here and Iowa State athletics falls completely on it's face because of this, you're going to stand by this statement, right? "JP has done SO much for ISU athletics", right?

Ok, I'll hold you to that.

Mr Overreaction is overreacting again.

This has no impact on recruiting. None.

 

[azepp]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

So if no recruits at all want to come here and Iowa State athletics falls completely on it's face because of this, you're going to stand by this statement, right? "JP has done SO much for ISU athletics", right?

Ok, I'll hold you to that.

The same way I'll hold you to the idea that "no recruits at all want to come here."

 

[IAStubborn]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Specifically that the court can stay a university decision while it is under judicial review.

To state it is some kind if personal vendetta against Bubu is silly and naive.

Correct

 

[Dingus]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

LIke previously said, this no longer has to do with Bubu but over turf and decision power. People in power (however lame) don't like others taking that away from them.

 

[clonedude]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

The same way I'll hold you to the idea that "no recruits at all want to come here."

I'm not saying what's going to happen. I'm saying what "could" happen. If, and it's a big IF, but if this leads to disaster, then you'll still back JP, right?

 

[kingcy]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I suppose. But we all realize that there is no proof that a crime was committed, right? It was investigated and charges were dropped.

Yes I know.

 

[CYKOFAN]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Is anyone outside of the Iowa sports media really talking about this? You guys make it sound like the world is ending. Leath or Pollard being fired or resigning over this? It's not going to happen and it's ridiculous that anyone could seriously believe that.

I would have thought the same thing a couple of months ago but as these events unfold, to think this couldn't have very bad affects for ISU athletics is burying your head in the sand imo. You do know that CBS sports, ESPN and FOX sports have already published articles about this don't you? If this goes to trial as it appears to now be headed, this will be national news, maybe big national news because we now have a coach who is a darling of the national basketball media. I'm normally one to try to calm down the chicken littles, but I've been trying to sound the horn that this is getting serious and out of control for a couple of weeks now as ISU has dug in. It now looks like it's not a matter of if but when this goes to trial if ISU officials don't do everything they can to settle this. I hope that still happens. But the publicity of the ISU administration and especially the a.d. fighting to keep an innocent athlete from competing will hurt isu sports, and probably a lot. Opposing coaches would be crazy not to use it against us in recruiting, and parents of prospective recruits would have every reason to wonder if our administration would back their kid if he got in a scrape in Ames, even if he was found completely innocent of the charges. Not good, and thinking it's no big deal is naïve (sp) imo.

 

[Seedman]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Mr Overreaction is overreacting again.

This has no impact on recruiting. None.

I disagree with your no impact analysis. As I said before…

Someone needs to consult a public relations firm and a psychiatrist, Iowa State has a serious problem! This is clear evidence of a mental disorder within the BOR or university hierarchy! Paradoxical events such as this actually occur when an individual with an imperceptible inferiority complex is thrust into or ascends a position of power. Psychoanalysts have found that when people with such a personality disorder find their acumen, accuracy, superiority or knowledge challenged, they often stop nothing in their attempts to prove their point or obtain submission from a dissenting party. These actions should not be confused with those who suffer from an illusory superiority complex.

I kid you not. This is a very, very disconcerting matter and could not possibly reflect more poorly on Iowa State University, the Board of Regents, President Leath and Diane Stale!!! The repercussions of such ill-advised actions have yet to be quantified, but could clearly impact recruiting across multiple sporting platforms!

 

[bawbie]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I disagree with your no impact analysis. As I said before…

Someone needs to consult a public relations firm and a psychiatrist, Iowa State has a serious problem! This is clear evidence of a mental disorder within the BOR or university hierarchy! Paradoxical events such as this actually occur when an individual with an imperceptible inferiority complex is thrust into or ascends a position of power. Psychoanalysts have found that when people with such a personality disorder find their acumen, accuracy, superiority or knowledge challenged, they often stop nothing in their attempts to prove their point or obtain submission from a dissenting party. These actions should not be confused with those who suffer from an illusory superiority complex.

I kid you not. This is a very, very disconcerting matter and could not possibly reflect more poorly on Iowa State University, the Board of Regents, President Leath and Diane Stale!!! The repercussions of such ill-advised actions have yet to be quantified, but could clearly impact recruiting across multiple sporting platforms!

Posting that twice doesn't make it any more reasonable, rational or correct.

 

[CyStalker]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Here is one of the initial problems I had with this whole ordeal. Back when Leath removed Bubu from the team due to violations of the student code of conduct, there was no statement made due to privacy laws. It seems to me that he could have made a general statement that would help "fill in the blanks" for everyone without mentioning names or specific details. Statements are made all the time in general terms that help fill the gaps. Those that have nothing to hide, hide nothing at all. If he was making the correct decision, then he could have made a general statement justifying his decision.

 

[temperflare]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Specifically that the court can stay a university decision while it is under judicial review.

To state it is some kind if personal vendetta against Bubu is silly and naive.

I'm not saying it's a personal vandetta against anyone. Why is ISU/BOR fighting a stay of a decision they made incorrectly and without merit?

Is it so in the future they don't have justify their decisions?

 

[Die4Cy]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I disagree with your no impact analysis. As I said before…

Someone needs to consult a public relations firm and a psychiatrist, Iowa State has a serious problem! This is clear evidence of a mental disorder within the BOR or university hierarchy! Paradoxical events such as this actually occur when an individual with an imperceptible inferiority complex is thrust into or ascends a position of power. Psychoanalysts have found that when people with such a personality disorder find their acumen, accuracy, superiority or knowledge challenged, they often stop nothing in their attempts to prove their point or obtain submission from a dissenting party. These actions should not be confused with those who suffer from an illusory superiority complex.

I kid you not. This is a very, very disconcerting matter and could not possibly reflect more poorly on Iowa State University, the Board of Regents, President Leath and Diane Stale!!! The repercussions of such ill-advised actions have yet to be quantified, but could clearly impact recruiting across multiple sporting platforms!

 

[Dryburn]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Specifically that the court can stay a university decision regarding athletic team participatio while it is under judicial review.

To state it is some kind if personal vendetta against Bubu is silly and naive.

But this is exactly the way the appeal process is set up, and the BOR and the University knew that going in. It was set up so that a judge could review, and approve or stay their decisions. To ***** about it after the fact, and only because they lost, seems pretty childish, at the very least. Talk about something that is silly and naive.

 

[Seedman]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

Posting that twice doesn't make it any more reasonable, rationale or correct.

Agreed. It was reasonable, rationale or correct the first time and still is.

 

[bawbie]

Re: Register Exclusive: ISU asks Supreme Court to keep Palo off men's basketball team

I'm not saying it's a personal vandetta against anyone. Why is ISU/BOR fighting a stay of a decision they made incorrectly and without merit?

Is it so in the future they don't have justify their decisions?

Several posters here have said that.

And no, they are appealing because they don't think judges should be able to "stay" their personnel decisions.