All FB coaching rumors and speculation
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As an ND fan, I'll chime in. I've got no problem with Campbell and I'm sure he'd do well at ND, but I don't know if he's the guy to keep the ball rolling in South Bend. Ideally, I'd like Freeman to stay on as HC and if that's not an option, I'd be happy with Luke Fickell. Other than that, I hope Swarbrick brings the Catholic checkbook, because if the Irish want to name a big name, they're going to need the cash.
I was actually surprised how many 8ish win seasons he had there and that he was kept on regardless of BCS games.
Also can't remember if it was connected but some seasons' wins were vacated.
But, 'next time' may roll around again...and again which becomes a 'pattern' and will eventually have an adverse effect on recruiting. So, what I'm saying is swing the pendulum hard enough that people 'trust' you'll stay.
This would be the only reason I might have pause if I'm Campbell. Not that it should matter that much, and maybe it doesn't at all to him, but more than money Campbell wants control and support. While fans don't really matter and shouldn't matter, it seems like there are enough people within ND that are important that prefer Freeman or Fickell, so he might be worried about getting cut off at the knees if there are disagreements about how the program operates.
I still think for ND it's a safe bet to go with Freeman and look to Campbell in 3 years or so if it isn't working out. This might make sense for Campbell as well. Let ND give their popular up and comer a chance, and if it doesn't work out you probably get a pretty good consensus behind hiring the experienced head coach.
The worst case for Campbell is Freeman succeeds and he doesn't get the shot at ND. That just means he can stay at ISU and do whatever he wants, look at other big jobs in college or look at the NFL.
None of us really know how much he wants that job and how willing he’d be to give up control. And that’s assuming he doesn’t convince ND that he knows what’s best.
1) Searching for other jobs is not by itself having one foot out the door. Sending out applications to every opening everywhere, that is having one foot out the door. And I mean like if interviewed at Duke. Not with the NFL or Notre Dame.
2) You must not know that many people or at least, not have any idea how the coaching industry works. Outside of Saban (who, oh has only gone from Michigan State to LSU to Miami etc....) or Kelly who went from Central Michigan I believe to Cincinnati to Notre Dame to LSU... outside of a coach here or there they take interest from other places.
3) If an athletic director had that thin of skin where a coach intereviewed elsewhere and then couldn't work with them after that fact.... then they won't be a good athletic director or in that job for very long
You’re alright with me sir. We don’t have to agree on everything.
Sitting in Jack Trice with 35 thousand people, watching Jim Walden and early Mac teams play, i never thought I’d ever see Iowa State be good, ever. I appreciate what Matt has done here more than anyone, other than my wife, will ever know
whatever he decides to do, he’s alright with me. And you’re always welcome here
Yep, and 99 out of 100 coaches will listen when someone like Notre Dame calls. Would be silly not to.
No matter what happens this time around, I think this is going to be the reality for MC and ISU for a while. Yes, "he gone" gradually shifts to "maybe he'll consider leaving," but unless Campbell is old and is no longer a hot commodity, it's going to be the case.
The Ferentz noise to the Falcons and maybe Browns was loud for a while. It took him not pursuing jobs, getting older and plateauing a bit for that noise to stop. Dantonio had some noise very briefly, but right as that happened they had a **** storm of off the field problems, he had serious health problems, and he was no longer a candidate.
People have to face it. If you aren't a blue blood, if your coach is good he will be a candidate and have to deal with this until he isn't attractive any more due to lack of winning, age or other problems. Hell, if you're a blue blood your coach can still be a candidate in the NFL or other blue bloods.
People worried about this with recruiting need to understand that ISU is absolutely not unique in this regard.
Hey guys....
That's funny, but we're looking for solutions to America's homeless issue and doing a detailed comparison of state tax burdens.
This is serious business
There are SOOOO many moving parts to a successful program and the resources and such have changed so much in the last 15 years (i.e. ticket sales used to drive finances and now its media, etc).
But what continues to bother me (and maybe I'm a homer here) is, essentially, that the "blue bloods" were defined in like the 50s/60s.......and of course a few more added....but now it is just assumed that NO ONE else can ever be one. I get it.....Toledo is lower than ISU/Big 12.....but in the P5.....literally it is just assumed that everyone wants one of like 5 jobs...and everything else, by default, is a stepping stone. And, now we are seeing even the "blue bloods" are stepping stones!
Even the blue bloods aren't immune.
Oklahoma and ND are about as high as it goes and they still lost coaches. This is a wild new era. We'll have these types of off-season conversations as long as we have a good coach.
Why? He doesn't owe the fans / us anything... as for recruits, yeah, maybe but at the same time, I'd be more ticked as a recruit if he said something and then turned around and did the opposite of what he said ALA Coach Alford. So I mean... he doesn't owe a statement to anyone IMO
