A Few Things And a New Direction:

[osclone]

First a few Things. First i would ask the moderators to ban posters who get on here and call our players "Worthless". Or describe them as "no talent". Posters like that arent mature enough to be
on here, at the very least each of their posts should come with The disclaimer "Im only 10 years old"
Adrian Peterson fumbles, Aaron Rodgers Throws int's. they are human they make mistakes.
We have a lot of very talented players, we all better pray that, if or when a coaching change happens
they all stay with us!! Did anybody stop and count how many freshman and sophmores played yesterday. alot and many played key parts. Enough bout that

The New Direction.
Since Earl Bruce ISU football has hired these guys:
Donnie Duncan coordinator
Jim Criner Head Coach @ FCS ( at that time Division I AA)
Jim Walden Head Coach D I a 44-52-4 record when he arrived. last 5 yrs won 3,7,6 4,3 See a trend here
Dan McCarney coordinator
Gene Chizek Coordinator
Paul Rhoads Coordinator
So whats the point? Whats wrong? Whats the answer?
the point is none of these hires were successful
Whats wrong is, none of these men had any solid previous success at the Division I level.
The answer is, we need to hire a seasoned coach. experienced at the DI level. Won championships, gone to bowls games. someone who has built up a program.
winning isnt easy. neither will finding the right new coach be easy or cheap!
yes i realize we have to get rid of Paul first. Im very confident that will happen shortly.

 

[TNT]

Steve Spurrier, he is probably looking for a place where he can prove himself again.

 

[Jsievers24]

In my opinion this is exactly the opposite of what we need. Some burned out old guy who doesn't have anything to prove because hehas already proved himself and just wants a big long contract so he can get fired and sit on his *** at home with a paid retirement. Where the hell are we gonna get a d1 winning coach from anyway? Let's just see if Art Briles wants to come to ISU, give Nick Saban a call, or how about Jim Harbaugh?

 

[CYCLNST8]

We need a guy that can look us in the eye and say, "We can win at Iowa State."

 

[Romero4Ever]

We need to find the right up and coming coach for this. I just don't think we will get the guy that has had success and coached championship teams. Too many better coaching openings out there this year. Ames just is not a dream destination job.

 

[Tornado man]

The New Direction.
Since Earl Bruce ISU football has hired these guys:
Donnie Duncan coordinator
Jim Criner Head Coach @ FCS ( at that time Division I AA)
Jim Walden Head Coach D I a 44-52-4 record when he arrived. last 5 yrs won 3,7,6 4,3 See a trend here
Dan McCarney coordinator
Gene Chizek Coordinator
Paul Rhoads Coordinator
So whats the point? Whats wrong? Whats the answer?
the point is none of these hires were successful
Whats wrong is, none of these men had any solid previous success at the Division I level.
The answer is, we need to hire a seasoned coach. experienced at the DI level. Won championships, gone to bowls games. someone who has built up a program.
winning isnt easy. neither will finding the right new coach be easy or cheap!
yes i realize we have to get rid of Paul first. Im very confident that will happen shortly.

This is...BS.
1. Good thing for Mississippi State that they didn't follow your advice when they hired Dan Mullen (you know, a coordinator) from Florida.
2. Also, good thing for Pitt that they didn't follow your advice when hiring Pat Narduzzi (another coordinator) from Mich State.
3. And, good thing for Stanford that they didn't follow your advice when they hired Jim Harbaugh (you know, from tiny U of San Diego).

 

[osclone]

Some of you are so **** negative. did you even read my post?? Matt Campbell (coach @ Toledo) will be 36 next week. He would fit the mold im talking about. how much younger would you want. Wow!!

 

[Londo]

Understand your point but this is exactly what Rhoads said

 

[norcalcy]

This coaching change needs to result in a complete overhaul of the program. Everything needs to be examined and the people in charge need to spend some time evaluating what is needed to have success here. If they need outside help, dammit go get it. Frankly, an “outside in” no holds barred assessment of why this program can't even play at a .500 level is badly and sorely needed. This is long term systemic failure and not an accident. To say a culture change is needed is a huge understatement.

If it’s a lack of funds, I want the President and the AD to come out without hesitation and tell the ISU community straight up that until we double donations forget about having a program we can be proud of. Having said that, I’m skeptical that money is the major issue right now. In fact, pouring money into this current structure might be the equivalent of giving a drunk a drink.

Yes it's a challenge to win here. It's a challenge to win a lot of places that aren't Ohio State, Alabama, Notre Dame, Florida State etc. What we’ve also seen in recent years is that you can have all the money and all the resources and still vastly underperform because your human capital and your culture are deficient (see USC and Texas). What I can’t see at ISU is any urgency related to the football program. The losses just kept piling up and we just kept telling ourselves that we have the right guy here because he’s from a certain zip code.

There have been three coaches here in the past 20 years and one of them bugged out after two years. The other two were given long leashes and a lot of tolerance for bad performance. The OP lists all the hires since Earle Bruce and draws some conclusions about who should be considered based on who has been hired in the past. While he makes some valid points, it feels reactionary to draw any conclusions until time is taken to realistically assess the current situation and figure out what is needed to compete.

This is in no way an indictment of the current players. I see guys giving it their all and I see enough talent here to compete against at least the bottom half of the Big XII if not the bottom 2/3. Demond Tucker, Joel Lanning, Levi Peters, and several others were working their butts off yesterday. But yesterday showed us just how overmatched this program is in the development, teaching and in game adjustment facets of running a program. The players who come to ISU deserve a lot better than what they have gotten.

 

[Brandon]

Some of you are so **** negative. did you even read my post?? Matt Campbell (coach @ Toledo) will be 36 next week. He would fit the mold im talking about. how much younger would you want. Wow!!

I would be happy with Toledo coach or northern Illinois coach

 

[jsmith86]

Some of you are so **** negative. did you even read my post?? Matt Campbell (coach @ Toledo) will be 36 next week. He would fit the mold im talking about. how much younger would you want. Wow!!

At least half the fanbase won't be happy with anyone older than 30. The other half won't be happy with anyone younger than 40. And then you have the half who think we should only have a HC who has a national championship ring as a coach already, as well as the half who want someone new to the HC scene. And you can't forget the half who are going to have one particular guy they want, and the half that will hate any suggestion for head coach made by anyone.

At least that was my experience after Chizik took off in an airplane for Auburn.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Lots of job openings so i am not sure you'll find a Jerry Kill type with a long record of winning at smaller schools.

BTW, Johnny Majors and Earl Bruce and a combined one year of HC experience between them before ISU.

We are going to need some major $$$ to land someone and I expect we would not have fired Rhoads if Leach didn't have some assurances from donors that they were up to footing that cost.

 

[isuno1fan]

You know. I could see us hiring the Toledo coach. He would be relatively cheap and would likely retain Ayeni since there is the Toledo connection between them. That will help with keeping Warren. I think this is at least on the short list for Pollard.

 

[CyBobby]

In my opinion this is exactly the opposite of what we need. Some burned out old guy who doesn't have anything to prove because hehas already proved himself and just wants a big long contract so he can get fired and sit on his *** at home with a paid retirement. Where the hell are we gonna get a d1 winning coach from anyway? Let's just see if Art Briles wants to come to ISU, give Nick Saban a call, or how about Jim Harbaugh?

We had the coach you are describing my friend.....Jim Walden....What we really need is a football coach with ties to the texas high school system of coaches, who can recruit texas talent and bring us at least winning football.......

I'm not talking conference championships just winning 7 games a year and not being an embarrassment to every cyclone fan in this country...........

 

[Rural]

Steve Spurrier, he is probably looking for a place where he can prove himself again.

He saw the Citadel loss coming.

 

[CyBobby]

At least half the fanbase won't be happy with anyone older than 30. The other half won't be happy with anyone younger than 40. And then you have the half who think we should only have a HC who has a national championship ring as a coach already, as well as the half who want someone new to the HC scene. And you can't forget the half who are going to have one particular guy they want, and the half that will hate any suggestion for head coach made by anyone.

At least that was my experience after Chizik took off in an airplane for Auburn.

The natl champs half is my wife who just told me she wants Nick Saban....my reply: Sorry Honey Nick is not coming to Iowa State

 

[awd4cy]

The defeatist attitude around here is hilarious. Yea, since we can't get Saban, Briles, Patterson, etc. we are doomed. No good coaches have ever started from small jobs.

 

[isuforlife]

I can tell you one thing, these players desreve the best, they have worked their butts off, not their fault the coaching staff made bad decisions . hope they all stay and build a strong foundation for the furture

 

[DhaCheann]

If we're talking old proven coaches, lets go for Spurrier, Frank Beamer, Jim Tressel, Mack Brown, or Bobby Bowden. biggrin:

 

[cc1091]

The New Direction.
.....
Dan McCarney coordinator
Gene Chizek Coordinator
Paul Rhoads Coordinator
So whats the point? Whats wrong? Whats the answer?
....
The answer is, we need to hire a seasoned coach. experienced at the DI level. Won championships, gone to bowls games. someone who has built up a program.

McCarney - Defensive Coordinator. Has won a National championship after leaving ISU. Has D1 experience. Fired at ISU and North Texas.
Chizik - Defensive Coordinator. Has won a National Championship as a Head Coach after leaving ISU. Has D1 experience. Sucked at ISU. Fired from Auburn.
Paul Rhodes - Defensive Coordinator. Fired from ISU.

Yup, I see a pattern. No more defensive coordinators hired as head coach at ISU. All they do is leave ISU and go on to National Championships at other schools. (see also Earle Bruce..not sure about Johnny Majors).