Omaha enters the transfer portal (confirmed)
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I say he should go to Creighton so he can play in Omaha
I question the whether your sample of players is a non-bias sample. i think you need to talk to a lot more than 3 players and make sure that there are some players who are benefiting from this landscape. Also, I actually think ISU basketball is able to compete better in this landscape than in the one-and-done landscape where all deals were behind closed doors.
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You are fooling yourself if you don't think Iowa State is a program that benefits from the portal more than it hurts us. It affords us to miss on a few recruits and doesn't put us into a situation of 3-4 rebuilding years to get guys either up to speed or graduated through. The ones who miss "the good ol days" probably wouldn't be happy with missing the tournament 4/5 years in a row.
Yeah...when coaches like Bill Self and Nick Saban are complaining about the current system, it couldn't be too bad for the likes of Iowa State.
That's because programs like theirs can get the top high school recruits based on reputation. Iowa State can't compete in that arena.
Of course when the playing field is leveled, coaches like those will cry about it
Here's KU over the time period. Ahead of time, I would guess most of us would think they "hit" on their recruits more often than we do. I'm not sure they do. It's KU so there's a lot more of them, you're going to have a lot more high-profile recruits who end up being role-players if they want to stay at KU, and I'm not sure who here would be defined as "living up to KU expectations", but there's a whole bunch of guys I've never heard of, whole bunch of guys who averaged 1.3 ppg then transferred to ECU, etc. For every Wayne Simien and Frank Mason there's a lot of guys I'd imagine most KU fans would say "that guy didn't do much".
So, we're in good company in only finding success with maybe 50% of our highly-rated recruits.
Keith Langford
Aaron Miles
Wayne Simien
JR Giddens
David Padgett
Omar Wilkes
Alex Galindo
Russell Robinson
Sasha Kaun
CJ Giles
Darnell Jackson
Brandon Rush
Mario Chalmers
Julian Wright
Micah Downs
Darrell Arthur
Sherron Collins
Cole Aldritch
Tyrel Reed
Tyshawn Taylor
Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris
Travis Releford
Quintrell Thomas
Xavier Henry
Thomas Robinson
Elijah Johnson
Josh Selby
Naadir Tharpe
Ben McLemore
Perry Ellis
Andrew White
Andrew Wiggins
Wayne Selden
Joel Embiid
Frank Mason
Kelly Oubre
Cliff Alexander
Devonte' Graham
Sviatoslav Mykhailiiuk
Carlton Bragg
Cheick Diallo
Lagerald Vick
Josh Jackson
Udoka Azubuike
Marcus Garrett
Devon Dotson
Quentin Grimes
David McCormack
Tristan Enaruna
Jalen Wilson
Bryce Thompson
Zach Clemence
KJ Adams
Bobby Pettiford
Gradey ****
Ernest Udeh
MJ Rice
Zuby Ejiofor
Elmarko Jackson
Fizer was good enough to play/start as a freshman but by no means a polished star. Our sample size of top twenty hs recruits is basically 2.
Want to add to my above comment about the perspective from a recruit. Above wasn’t meant to be negative about the process at all.
My son views what’s happening in the portal as a way to build up to a level that wouldn’t have been there for him out of high school. He’s young for his grade and continues to improve and grow. He loves the idea of the portal as in his mind it creates a path to get to the highest level schools if he continues to get better and grow to that level. Will he get there? Who knows and probably not. But the path and possibility is there when that wasn’t in the past.
As someone already stated, the players and coaches have already adjusted to the portal. Time for fans to accept it.
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I know 3 is a really small sample size, but the athletes I talked to personally said it creates locker room problems. One even straight up admitted there's jealousy issues at play also.
I don't know if you've been following the Proctor drama, but it sounds like he wasn't well received at all by his new teammates when he went to Iowa.
I know 3 is a really small sample size, but the athletes I talked to personally said it creates locker room problems. One even straight up admitted there's jealousy issues at play also.
I don't know if you've been following the Proctor drama, but it sounds like he wasn't well received at all by his new teammates when he went to Iowa.
Everyone takes 1 scholarship. It’s not like swinging and missing on a free agent in the pros that you pay a bunch of money to and ruins your salary structure.
Yeah, I saw someone else with that good reminder.....we tend to improve and get great guys in the portal.
The list there is KU's top-100 guys. They've had about 60, compared to our 16. I didn't count but for KU I would guess about half of those guys were top-20.
Think Brackins factors in there as well, so as meatloaf said 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
I kind of remember something like that. The Lester Earl deal was right around that time too. That ISU class was ranked #2 only behind Duke which had arguably the best class in history at the time.
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Brackins was #17 in the 2007 class on Rivals. On "RSCI" (this is the thing on sports-reference.com, some sort of composite rating?) he's only #51.
Pretty solid class. OJ Mayo was #1, other players in it were Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, and James Harden.
Pretty solid class. OJ Mayo was #1, other players in it were Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, and James Harden.
So just so we are clear. You don't want a coaching staff that continually signs the best players they can? Cruz I want that coaching staff.
NO I don't think he's a 5, he's a 3 or 4, but ISU was training him to be a 5.
Not sarcasm. I hope he goes somewhere, is used properly and lights it up. Then all the naysayers can eat crow.
