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[cyfan92]

challenge ive had with a recruiter is they want you to take the employers offer with as little as haggling as possible. they dont get paid unless you get hired. But yes, i agree with your overall point that they open doors otherwise not available

Yep there are bad apples in everything. Everyone can feel free to DM me and i'll recommend a great firm who did NOT pressure me.

At the end of the day, you are in control of taking interviews and accepting offers. Do not let someone else chose for you.

 

[cyfan92]

My wife’s position was eliminated at the beginning of the year after being with the company 20+ years. She is starting a new job next week because of a recruiter. No idea where resumes go to die when you apply for jobs now. You would think HR would at least respond back for VP level positions.

YEP, REALLY DUMB IMO.. plus when you apply online without the recruiter, the company doesn't have to pay the recruiter fee as well.

 

[kirk89gt]

I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.

I would say that recruiters can be good or bad and to make sure you do your due diligence to vett both them and the company / role they are trying to fill. Had one recruiter who I had known for over a decade got me hooked up with my present job that I started in 2021 (coincidentally, my last day is tomorrow). A lot more transparency on her part could have lead me to ask some more specific, pointed questions during the interview process, and I could have avoided this dumpster fire of a company.

On the plus side though, my next opportunity probably wouldn’t have happened / materialized without working in my present role, so there is a silver lining in this story.

Stay tuned to see if my “life raft” has a hole in it.

Also, FWIW, being in the HR space, I would strongly discourage trying to leverage another offer to stay at your present employer and the statistics tend to bear that out. Most that do this are gone within the year (whether they want to be or not).

I tend to look at it this way…. They (your employer) had their chance to show their appreciation, and they didn’t. That should tell you everything you need to know about your present employer.

 

[SCNCY]

My current and last job I got from recruiters that messaged me on LinkedIn. I would definitely have your LinkedIn profile updated and ready, and check the messages periodically. If nothing else, play them along for a while and ask what the budgeted salary is for the role they are recruiting for just to get an idea of where the market is.

 

[Mr Janny]

I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.

Absolutely this. Same experience for me. I've gotten tips and inside info on the person I'm interviewing with. Nothing earth shattering, but stuff like "Make sure to bring up your experience in X, because even though that's not on the job description, it's something that they are moving towards" I once got a tip that a particular interviewer always asked the same icebreaker question, so I was prepared with a well thought out answer, that sounded off the cuff.
Also information on salary ranges to ask for or what considerations they'll entertain and negotiate on. It's like having an advocate in your corner, just trying to give you an edge.

 

[06_CY]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

 

[cowgirl836]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

If you are happy and feel valued and well-compensated, power to you.

 

[KnappShack]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

It only matters if you aren't happy. If you're happy with work and the compensation then you're good.

 

[ISUCyclones2015]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

If you're happy with your job and you are getting paid well, there is no shame in staying.

I think what most are trying to say is don't stay just because you've stayed so long.

I almost left my company/job a few years back because I was feeling underappreciated for what I was accomplishing but I then got reorged into a new manager.

I was looking for jobs but they impressed me so much. Defended me and gave me crazy good opportunities, promoted me multiple times, gave me special stock awards, crazy big bonuses, multiple raises, and fought to get me our most prestigious award at my company (included a trip to Hawaii).

Will be 9 years at the company next month and 3 years with that manager and these have been the best 3 years I've had here.

 

[dmclone]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

22 years here and sometimes I feel the same. At this point, here is what is keeping me there:

I could probably make $40k+/year more, but the grass isn't always greener.

At this point in my career, I have no urge to advance or learn a bunch of new things. I'm a SME in a few areas that are not going away anytime soon. I play their games with getting certifications but everyone knows what I'm going to do.

I have as much PTO as I need

Benefits are good

I don't hate my boss. This is a huge one. I've had 8 bosses in the last 12 years and two of them made my life hell. I don't know what I would get at another company.

I like my co-workers.

Everyone is returning to work. At least the facilities are nice and it's only a few days a week. I don't think they would have a problem if i told them I was moving, which could happen in the next few years.

They let me work when I want.

I've seen a lot of people come back to the company. On the other hand, they usually make a lot more money when they come back.

Even though it's been 30 years, I worked retail, I know how ****** it can get.

When I got sick, they treated me great.

The company is stable

 

[CloniesForLife]

I could not more highly endorse working with a recruiter. At the end of the day, you can say no to their interview requests. My experience has been they have gotten me larger sign on bonuses and got me in front of executives that would not have happened if it wasn't for their personal connection to the company or leader.

Yep that's how I got my current job. Recruiters typically have relationships with a lot of businesses so your resume will at least get seen vs just applying and throwing it into the void

 

[dmclone]

I will say that based on my experience, the day your company goes from private to public, consider your options because things will only go downhill from there.

 

[KnappShack]

I will say that based on my experience, the day your company goes from private to public, consider your options because things will only go downhill from there.

And if your company CEO is being outed in anonymous blogs as a fraudster that triggers audits of his/her dealings....

Hit the bricks. No matter how charming he/she may be in the company meetings.

The more you know....

 

[throwittoblythe]

I will say that based on my experience, the day your company goes from private to public, consider your options because things will only go downhill from there.

I will also add: if your company gets bought by private equity. That is more and more common these days. I had my dream job in 2020. Company was bought by PE and starting in Jan 2022, the company changed overnight.

 

[mred]

I will say that based on my experience, the day your company goes from private to public, consider your options because things will only go downhill from there.

I spent a total of 12 years at four different companies before landing in my current position, where I've been for 11 years (with no plan to leave anytime soon). I've learned a lot about what I like and don't like in an employer, but the number one lesson I learned is I never want to work for a publicly-held company again.

 

[Pat]

I will also add: if your company gets bought by private equity. That is more and more common these days. I had my dream job in 2020. Company was bought by PE and starting in Jan 2022, the company changed overnight.

Same wolves, different wool, same outcome.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I will say that based on my experience, the day your company goes from private to public, consider your options because things will only go downhill from there.

In the middle of that right now and truer words could never be spoken.

It went from 'we're going to be totally hands off and let you continue what you've been doing well for so long' to 'this is ________, he's your new region manager and you've got calls with him twice a month and here's the reports he is going to need from you' real damn fast.

 

[throwittoblythe]

In the middle of that right now and truer words could never be spoken.

It went from 'we're going to be totally hands off and let you continue what you've been doing well for so long' to 'this is ________, he's your new region manager and you've got calls with him twice a month and here's the reports he is going to need from you' real damn fast.

Similar to my experience with private equity. I was in sales and they were very hands off before PE. Put in the effort, show activity, get your stuff done.

Once PE took over it was daily calls of “has that closed yet? We need to show this on our Q2 report. Have you put that in the CRM?”

 

[stuclone]

I officially survived.

Staring at my email/calendar yesterday for hours waiting for a private meeting was not fun. Heart dropped a little when the HR email came out this morning, but happy to also say I survived.

Now, time to develop a better external network to be prepared the next time these come around...

 

[Cyhig]

I hit 15 years at the current company. Reading the last few pages almost makes me feel dumb for staying that long.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Congrats on 15 years.