Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[Statefan10]

That's false. This order is still not in place. And frankly today's proclamation does nothing but prove wrong the people who said we were already doing an SIP by a different name.

She was asked directly why criteria for an SIP is needed if we're already effectively doing one and she fell back on the same talking points without answering.

Exactly.. For the past two weeks, Reynolds has been saying what we currently had was an SIP order and she was doing everything that she could.. If that's the case, how could she ramp up her guidelines? What happens when we end up meeting the threshold of the 10 point scale?

 

[madguy30]

Ordered a boatload more closed and any groupings will be considered a crime and ticketed.

I'd assume this is referring to 'Corona parties' like some around the country are still doing or if someone still thinks they need to have a huge birthday party for their 2 year old at a park.

I hope if anyone does do this type of thing, people are proactive in turning them in...I see it as reporting someone for fishing without a license, poaching, etc. except for the whole 'people could die' thing.

 

[Statefan10]

Said our metrics are basically the same as what Washington state does and pretty well aligned with the CDC. Although I remember people here before saying the CDC is bad information, so there is that.

Well I mean the CDC and many of the White House Covid-19 task force have said every state should be sheltering in place but here we are.

 

[Rabbuk]

Exactly.. For the past two weeks, Reynolds has been saying what we currently had was an SIP order and she was doing everything that she could.. If that's the case, how could she ramp up her guidelines? What happens when we end up meeting the threshold of the 10 point scale?

We won't ever meet the 10 point thing. That seems intentional

 

[BCClone]

Well I mean the CDC and many of the White House Covid-19 task force have said every state should be sheltering in place but here we are.

And Dr. Fauci tells us to wear a mask but he doesn't. Also people telling us that his word is gospel, but when questioned about things like this people say his is bowing to the wishes of the White House; which would mean to not listen to him. There is a lot of conflicting information being pushed by a lot of people.

 

[ZB4CY]

Right but didn't Covid-19 officially make it so that person died? Wouldn't that be complications from Covid-19?

Like if someone has rheumatoid arthritis, which leads to a weakened immune system, and is doing fine one week, and then contracts Covid and dies, they died because of Covid making things really severe.

Yeah, in some peoples eyes I'm sure it is.

 

[Statefan10]

We won't ever meet the 10 point thing. That seems intentional

Yeah that's almost clear as day.. There was a doctor from IC who essentially said we'd have to essentially explode in cases / deaths in order to reach 10 on that scale. Not putting Linn County in the same region as Johnson and other eastern counties certainly helps. Interesting they're using regions made in 2001 because of a terrorist attack in NYC because we all know terrorism is the exact same as a contagious virus.

 

[Rabbuk]

Yeah that's almost clear as day.. There was a doctor from IC who essentially said we'd have to essentially explode in cases / deaths in order to reach 10 on that scale. Not putting Linn County in the same region as Johnson and other eastern counties certainly helps. Interesting they're using regions made in 2001 because of a terrorist attack in NYC because we all know terrorism is the exact same as a contagious virus.

Supposedly the regions are set up to follow the metros that people would go to for medical care.

 

[Statefan10]

And Dr. Fauci tells us to wear a mask but he doesn't. Also people telling us that his word is gospel, but when questioned about things like this people say his is bowing to the wishes of the White House; which would mean to not listen to him. There is a lot of conflicting information being pushed by a lot of people.

I'm assuming Fauci isn't wearing a mask because he's not out and about in crowds of people like many other Americans are.

 

[Acylum]

I'm done being vocal about wanting her to clamp down more, or turn the dial up,

Welp.

 

[Statefan10]

Supposedly the regions are set up to follow the metros that people would go to for medical care.

And interestingly enough I know someone who's from CR who is currently hospitalized in IC.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I did some math on this, extrapolating from the deaths number. The trick is that you have to assume a true mortality rate, which is one thing that really is not known and won't be for a while yet.

If you assume 14 day lag time from contracting to dying, and assume mortality rates from 0.5% to 1.5%; then it works out that the actual infected compared with confirmed cases is somewhere between 3x and 8x. So confirmed atm is about 340k, so figure between 1-2M in reality.

It's out there in the wild, and it's not going to be eliminated like polio. In the end, there are only 2 things that will really stop this. Herd immunity once ~60% of people have had it, or a treatment that helps enough to reduce the mortality rate by an order of magnitude (or two).

We should be putting resources in to rapid testing not hydroxychloroquine. Because hydroxychloroquine isn’t going to help us get back to some kind of more normal life.

 

[BCClone]

I'm assuming Fauci isn't wearing a mask because he's not out and about in crowds of people like many other Americans are.

So when he did press conferences, seeing how there were 4-6 people up there, there was only 1-2 reporters in the room (because you have to add a couple for secret service that you can't see)?

 

[Acylum]

We should be putting resources in to rapid testing not hydroxychloroquine. Because hydroxychloroquine isn’t going to help us get back to some kind of more normal life.

I don't think you have anything to worry about in that regard. It's literally a drop in the bucket.

 

[Statefan10]

Welp.

I can criticize / comment on her data, metrics, and explanations of things, but I'm done arguing with others on why she should do more. She's either going to do it, or she's not. Nothing I say on here will change that. I will, however, still have conversations about what she is saying to the public and the information she's sharing.

 

[Statefan10]

So when he did press conferences, seeing how there were 4-6 people up there, there was only 1-2 reporters in the room (because you have to add a couple for secret service that you can't see)?

You're absolutely right. Dr. Fauci should be addressing the entire nation with important information while wearing a mask that absolutely muffles his sound. That's a fantastic idea.

I'm sure if Dr. Fauci were going to loaded grocery stores or working in a packed environment, he'd be wearing a mask. Him being around 10 other people while being interviewed and not wearing a mask isn't hypocritical like you're trying to make it.

 

[madguy30]

We should be putting resources in to rapid testing not hydroxychloroquine. Because hydroxychloroquine isn’t going to help us get back to some kind of more normal life.

The way it's being promoted is it makes it sound like it's OK to get Covid-19 because there's a medication for it so we can get back to work sooner. We all REALLY want normalcy to happen but this isn't strep or an ear infection.

Rapid antibodies tests should also be a priority.

 

[Clonefan32]

I will say my "any business who is still operating will at least have a claim to being essential" argument went out the window when I saw the local trophy shop open today.

 

[Acylum]

Today's numbers reflect an additional 758 test results.

 

[NorthCyd]

We should be putting resources in to rapid testing not hydroxychloroquine. Because hydroxychloroquine isn’t going to help us get back to some kind of more normal life.

It's an existing drug so I don't think it would require resources that would hinder the development of anything else. The biggest impact I've heard is people who rely on it for arthritis medication are not able to get it. That and people taking koi pond treatment of the same name and killing themselves...
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