The only one we know for sure won’t kill Cersei is Arya despite being the most qualified for the job. The show runners won’t have her kill the two biggest villains on the show. I do worry they are writing Dany to die at this point and don’t like it. I kept hoping she would find out she is pregnant and they give her perspective but clearly if that happens, it will be after they take everything from her.
Game of Thrones Season 8
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Davos may have had the most cryptic scene of the season so far:
"The Lord of Light: we play his game for him, fight his war, and then, he ***** off. No signs. No blessings. Who knows what he wants."
With so little time left in the series, I find it hard to believe that this scene has little significance.
"The Lord of Light: we play his game for him, fight his war, and then, he ***** off. No signs. No blessings. Who knows what he wants."
With so little time left in the series, I find it hard to believe that this scene has little significance.
I don’t get this line of thought. If there is a mad queen it is Cersei. She murdered countless people including their “Pope” with wildfire while blowing up a Church. Yet the people flock into the castle. Makes zero sense.
Dany grieving a Dragon and Missandei is not insanity, it’s normal.
I like the political drama and I am guessing Sansa has gone full Littlefinger, but that is a guess I have not read any spoilers.
Dany has done nothing that comes close to Tywin or Cersei in terms of cruelty, and her motivations are far more noble. I mean, Cersei is using Qyburn to experiment on people and has an undead body guard.
Funny, I missed something last night that I caught this morning. I thought it was Dany that was cursing Cersei and King’s Landing by shouting Dracarys at them as Missandei was being executed. Instead, it was Missandei shouting Dracarys at Daenerys, basically telling her to “burn this mother****** to the ground.”
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/5/...eason-8-episode-4-dracarys-missandei-daenerys
Basically it’s what I’ve been saying about Daenerys since last night, only said by people who know a lot more about political science than I do.
Basically it’s what I’ve been saying about Daenerys since last night, only said by people who know a lot more about political science than I do.
Definitely did. Very much a Littlefinger-esque play because she is smart enough to know that Tyrion could not not tell Varys this information. And then like Varys promptly said "eight people know now, that means hundreds of people will know soon."
In absence of a Targaryen he has a legitimate claim, but where does he get an Army?
They were offered an opportunity to kneel, which is more than what Tywin would have given them. They chose their death, that is on them.
It's not what shes done, but what the show has set her up to do. It seems like she is going to go nuclear on Kings Landing and kill a bunch of innocent people now. She more or less said she was going to in this episode.
Benioff & Weiss said this was the case in the "Behind the Episode" feature last night.
All Dany really need do is to burn the Red Keep. Not the entire city. Make Cersei live among the smallfolk, who'd likely riot again and kill her.
Dany deserves to die after the fact that she was 2000 ft up in the air on a dragon and couldn't see Euron's fleet on a bright and sunny day!
Terrible management!
Terrible management!
You could see in her face she was battling with the thought of if she should or shouldn't tell Tryion even up until the moment she did. But she did it with a purpose and that was clear.
Tywin tried to do that to the Starks and the people in that world saw it as going to far. And I doubt any viewers saw that as anything but evil.
Influential people die all the time, but effectively erasing a house seems like the ultimate tyrannical move in that world.
I think that since she's lost the purpose of freeing slaves that she's become focused on power at any costs. It was easy to talk about the perfect scenario when they got to Westeros with a massive advantage. But now she's seeing her opportunity start to slip and she's willing to pay any cost to take the throne.
And how is this different than Tywin aside from Dragon's? He sacked King's Landing for no reason after Rhaegar was killed, and had The Mountain smash babies against a wall. Are they setting her up for madness? I guess possibly, but it doesn't make sense to me. How is Cersei not mad? She essentially drove Tommen to suicide by killing his wife.
Yara is going to have to play some sort of role in taking out Euron's Iron Fleet, right? They took her out of our views to maybe make us forget about her? There is no way they can defeat Euron's Iron fleet with what forces they have assembling, she has to make some sort of play here next episode.
Yeah, and it's the Lannisters who do this stuff. So, I don't think it is a lock that Dany gets the throne, or that she is the ideal leader, but she is far and away better than Cersei.
I keep thinking about the "bittersweet ending" thing. I'm just spitballing here, but what I'm guessing happens is that it's a "happy ending" in that Cersei is ousted, but nobody is happy because they've lost the people they love most.
I am somewhat predicting Jon dies (either he or Dany is going to, there's not really a way to sustain both) - so if Dany gets the throne, it's bittersweet because she's ruling over a land where nobody loves her and she lost the only person who did. If Dany dies and Jon rules, it's him ruling a land he loves but doesn't want to rule without the person he loves. I'm thinking either Jaime or Tyrion dies, which will leave the other sad in the end. If Jaime dies, Brienne will be broken. I think Grey Worm may make it, but is sad because he has no Missandei. Sansa is ruling the north alone, Arya won't stay (if she makes it - I'm not sure she will, given her conversation w/the Hound). I'm a bit bummed that there's presumably no more Tormund, that's bittersweet for me.
I am somewhat predicting Jon dies (either he or Dany is going to, there's not really a way to sustain both) - so if Dany gets the throne, it's bittersweet because she's ruling over a land where nobody loves her and she lost the only person who did. If Dany dies and Jon rules, it's him ruling a land he loves but doesn't want to rule without the person he loves. I'm thinking either Jaime or Tyrion dies, which will leave the other sad in the end. If Jaime dies, Brienne will be broken. I think Grey Worm may make it, but is sad because he has no Missandei. Sansa is ruling the north alone, Arya won't stay (if she makes it - I'm not sure she will, given her conversation w/the Hound). I'm a bit bummed that there's presumably no more Tormund, that's bittersweet for me.
i just want to see both sides acting intelligently/logically and an actual conflict. Not weighting the scales for dramatic affect. I mean, the battle for Winterfell was some epic cinema, but how on earth from what we saw did they only lose half their forces?
Tywin had done it twice, and people feared him as much as they respected him when they talked about him without him present. I know what you're saying but it seems that people "forgave" him for eliminating the Reyne's of Castamere. Maybe that had to do with the fact that they initially rebelled against their liege lord, who knows
