Campbell and the field
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My mistake - I assumed you were a long-time season ticket holder but if you only went to the Drake game and used that as the basis for your complaining, I guess I'm barking up the wrong tree.
@cyenne suggested that we go back and read the tweets from @cycloneturf, so I did. In one tweet they mentioned that having 50,000 people on the field "didn't help". In that very same tweet they were talking about preparing to tarp the field to protect it from expected snowfall. That was on OCT 15!. I'm pretty sure that was the earliest snowfall recorded ever. Those guys had tough weather to deal with all year. I don't pretend to know the right answer to the turf vs grass debate, but I can't imagine they will have any worse elements to deal with in future seasons.
Earlier it was mentioned that grass "is OK for high schools". I would point out that many high schools - even smaller schools - are installing turf fields due to the overall reduced maintenance costs.
Do those schools look 10 years in the future when said turf is now needing replaced due to wear?
Did Drake struggle with the natural grass as well? Didn't seem to impede their air attack or ability to score. Suck it up Campbell, it's football and it's played outdoors on grass.
Mike McCarthy would have liked to blame their miserable performance against AZ on the surface conditions.
You sure about the injury point? I heard an interview yesterday with All-Pro CB, Chris Harris, for the Broncos that said he hates playing on turf as he got injured. I don't know if the turf attributed to his injury. A study a few years ago said 82% of NFL players prefer grass, I suspect that if 82% prefer grass it has something to do with protecting their #1 asset, their health.
We can grow beautiful grass (the turf type) year round here in northern cal, yet just about every local high school has field turf. Have to think maintenance cost figures in the decision. If the local high school in my neighborhood is any indicator, 10 years is about the usable life of the stuff.
Maybe its already been mentioned, but a hybrid system (artificial fibers added to natural grass) like those used by some of the clubs in the Premier League seems like a good solution given the climate and all the rain they get, when we redo the field.
http://www.dessosports.com/everton-fc-plays-hybrid-grass
http://www.dessosports.com/everton-fc-plays-hybrid-grass
I love natural grass but I can also see where a coach would want the consistency. At the end of the day, I'd like to stick with grass but my bet is that we get what Campbell wants.
This year would have been awful. It will be really hard to replicate these poor of conditions.
This year would have been awful. It will be really hard to replicate these poor of conditions.
Yeah I had mentioned that, most of the NFL has went to that system too, it gives a bit of the best of both worlds. I can see us doing that.
I thought when I looked it up and there were a few more than that, but now that we play more games you think it is not going to continue to happen? 20 years ago or so we rarely played past Nov. 15th now having a game scheduled the last week of November is a yearly thing. So we will have at least one game the last week of November every other year in JT. And I realize some believe that the weather magically is better on Nov. 30 than it is on Dec.1 but it is just not the case. Really the Dec. argument is not really a very good one, and really has no baring on what I was trying to discuss.
I think there are valid arguments on both sides of this. And I can see both sides. I myself really like the natural grass in Jack Trice, but I struggle whether it is the best surface for the field moving forward. Yet I am not the one making those decisions and arguing which is better is not what I was trying accomplish.
Which brings me back to my original question, it is obvious, both from the condition and from discussion here that the field is past due for a rehab. There has been talk of displeasure with the playing surface. Is that talk a signal that they are displeased with the field and want a major overhaul of the natural surface and what would that be (just a reseed and rework of what we have, or advanced natural surface as has been mentioned here), or is there a push to go to an artificial surface, and is that an actual possibility?
I detest artificial turf. I'd rather give Campbell another raise and redo the natural grass field than put in turf. Simply put in it is played on artificial turf it ain't football. Besides sloppy muddy cold and rainy football is how it is meant to be played. The climate control artificial turf hash Mark's way too close together ******** they play in the NFL isn't football.
I think this year was the perfect storm to trash out a grass field that was past it's prime. I really don't care which way they go on the turf, as long as it is safe and a good surface. Field was in pretty bad shape for the last 3 home games. Even in the WVU game you could see chunks of the turf coming up. Need to make it a priority to get it done as soon as possible.
