Brandon Jensen back on team

I guess I don't see why people are happy to let a guy on the team, who quit on his teammates. Other than it's a position of weakness. I know I wouldn't trust a dude that has walked out on the team if he was lining up next to me.

He makes the position better is one huge reason to be happy about his return. Not to mention there may have been a lot more to going on than we know.
 
I guess I don't see why people are happy to let a guy on the team, who quit on his teammates. Other than it's a position of weakness. I know I wouldn't trust a dude that has walked out on the team if he was lining up next to me.

Whoa, whoa. Wait a second. The guys who let their teammates down were Coe and Irving. Jensen gave the program four full years and was seeing the jackwagons of the unit get the bulk of the snaps. He's in the position now that he doesn't need to make way for the knuckleheads. By all reports, he was a good leader and had a work ethic, something the position group sorely needs. I think you're jumping to all the wrong conclusions with your faux condemnation of us happy to see some sanity restored to the interior DLine.
 
Please read through the whole thread for all my thoughts as I don't want to restate them.

Out of Irving, Coe, Cousin, and Jensen, he was in line to see the 4th most snaps. I doubt he was happy about that as a 5th year senior, especially with 2 of those guys not being great teammates.

Very possible that's true. If you had said that am sure you wouldn't have gotten the blow back.
 
I guess I don't see why people are happy to let a guy on the team, who quit on his teammates. Other than it's a position of weakness. I know I wouldn't trust a dude that has walked out on the team if he was lining up next to me.

You are completely misstating things. Brandon Jensen is graduating this spring. He made a decision this winter that after graduation that he was going to enter the job market. Therefore he would not be a student at ISU in the fall. Plus he seemed content to call it a career in football since he was graduating. Probably a lot of reasons for calling it a career.

Now he has expressed a desire to use his final season of eligibility and attend school this fall. Brandon Jensen left the team in good standing. He disclosed his plans to Coach Rhoads last winter during the recruiting season. Which was one of the reasons we loaded up with Juco's at the DE position plus Ayeni at DT position, and were planning on not using Irving or Coe at DE at all, only at DT.

Whatever the reasons were for his leaving, the important thing to understand is that he communicated to the Head Coach as to what his plans were and left the team on good terms. Now he has had a change of heart for whatever reasons. He has asked Coach Rhoads about rejoining the team and Coach Rhoads has said that he could.

Michael Jordan left the Chicago Bulls for a time. I suppose you think that Scottie Pippen and the rest did not trust Jordan when he rejoined the team? BS. Leaving a sport because you have lost the passion for it happens all the time. And when that player returns they have a renewed desire that they did not have before because they realized what they had given up.

So count me in as being ECSTATIC about this news. And I WELCOME HIM BACK with open arms. Happy that he made the decision now, rather than wait for a couple of years and have him say that he wished he would have returned. Brandon Jensen always conducted himself with class and gave a total effort. I expect nothing less with his return to the team.
 
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I guess I don't see why people are happy to let a guy on the team, who quit on his teammates. Other than it's a position of weakness. I know I wouldn't trust a dude that has walked out on the team if he was lining up next to me.

This is football, not war. Let's not get over dramatic about trusting the guy lining up next to you. Deciding to give up the game and changing your mind is different than quitting on your teammates. It's not like he tried to transfer and find new teammates.
 
Excellent news. He's not a world beater but he brings experience and depth at a position in sore need of both. Welcome back!
 
This is what I heard as well. I heard it was a combo of Irving being disrespectful and Coe not holding himself responsible, but yet likely to see the field ahead of BJ.

Wonder if that was a reason some of our other DL like Kron left the team.

Coe was getting more chances and it was causing a lot of friction among the team. Even affecting the coaches. Sounds like there are/were a couple of others, but hopefully they wake up and get back on track.
 
The most important thing a DT can do is drawing double teams. After that it is penetrating those double teams and causing interior disruption/pressure.

I'm not sure Jensen can do those extremely well, but he will be serviceable and will be dependable.

That's what everyone said about McDonough. Then he was your first team B12 NG.
 
Some of that depends on how Ayeni and Aka come along. Both are capable athletes. If they are quick learners and are both Big 12 ready than it probably makes sense to leave Jensen at nose guard. Otherwise the 3 tech is definitely a possibility.

I wonder if this will put to rest the talk of the defense needing to play a 3-4.

Jensen returning actually increases the prospects of having a successful 3-4 defense. A 3-4 defense requires a NT anchor, and now there are 2 guys rather than 1 able to play that role. The 3-4 DE's should also be larger rather than the smaller speed rush type who can play in a 4-3. The larger DE's who have been mentioned as candidates to slide inside would probably be perfect for the DE position in a 3-4.
 
I can't believe so many guys are arguing about getting a BJ.

Welcome back, Brandon. Now let's see about getting you a bowl ring as a bonus!
 
Jensen returning actually increases the prospects of having a successful 3-4 defense. A 3-4 defense requires a NT anchor, and now there are 2 guys rather than 1 able to play that role. The 3-4 DE's should also be larger rather than the smaller speed rush type who can play in a 4-3. The larger DE's who have been mentioned as candidates to slide inside would probably be perfect for the DE position in a 3-4.

Looking at it from that perspective, you're right. For some reason I'm just not a fan of the 3-4. I always see it as a glorified 5-2. A lot will just depend on how everybody progresses.
 
Ya good leaders quit the team when they don't get pt my mistake.

Jensen was a back-up for three years and never quit much less get himself tossed. He was graduating and was facing giving up snaps to a couple of obvious, NOT all-in tools. What is your point? Being contrarian here is just making you look foolish. This is huge help for the DLine and you can tell from the release that Rhoads is elated to have him back. Are you wrong or is Rhoads wrong?
 
He doesn't/didn't play DT.

Good lord. Compare it to whatever position you want. He's an interior defensive lineman. Yes I understand the difference between nose and tackle. Either way his stats are under the average. Lets not pretend like he's an NFL caliber player here.
 
42 is a heck of a lot more than 18. That was my point. And why compare him to an NFL guy? Just look at other NCAA teams starting DT. I already have. Trust me, 18 is below the average.

I really really want to trust you. But you are going to have to tell me what "The Average" is. Only then will I be able to trust you.
 
Good lord. Compare it to whatever position you want. He's an interior defensive lineman. Yes I understand the difference between nose and tackle. Either way his stats are under the average. Lets not pretend like he's an NFL caliber player here.

I'm not sure if anybody is saying he is. Any speculation is because of comments Shane Burnham made where he said something along the line that Jensen has a higher ceiling than Jake McDonough, who has hung around the NFL some since his graduation.
 
Bj didn't leave school so not the same even if sarcastic.


OK, I get that this all might be difficult to follow...but when I say something is sarcastic and put it in quotes as something 'some dumbarse' would say...it's not like you have to argue with the logic contained within the quote. I know it's not the same...but was almost certain someone would try and make that leap, so I posted my OP to head it off ahead of time.