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Apparently, some action for the Code of Conduct issue. That's all things are about now.

So the actions that a judge didnt feel were any sort of violation of that CoC? And even then, any alleged violations of that CoC would be based on the testimony of that same proven liar.
 

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So the actions that a judge didnt feel were any sort of violation of that CoC? And even then, any alleged violations of that CoC would be based on the testimony of that same proven liar.


Apparently they are.
Nobody will be convinced by any discussion here. I have no idea what other wild answer you're hoping for on this.

We're sitting here with an entirely preventable pile of stupid, from the first night until now. It won't get any better with people's hysterics on here.
 

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An "opportunity" to maybe get a waiver (if the NCAA actually approves it) to another school, this late in the game when most openings would have been filled.... is not 'an easy way through this'

True. Even if he gets the waiver, which is a big if when dealing with the NCAA, his chances of landing somewhere starting in September would be very slim. No reason the decision couldn't have been made months earlier by Leath since he was working off the same info the ALJ had. The parties and witnesses were not interviewed by Leath, so why the big delay? I know BuBu said he would have tried to transfer somewhere else, but good luck in getting somebody to take him after his name was drug thru the mud and he'd been kicked off the team by the ISU president.
 

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I wouldn't be so sure that Bubu actually knew that they would allow a transfer. That statement sounds like a cover your *** type of thing for Iowa State.

The only good news is the news that maybe they decide tomorrow.
Um, wouldn't his attorney Boles know? ISU is hitting them right between the eyes. This is major part of contention in this matter, isn't it? Either Boles and Bubu are lying, or they're idiots.

"Attorneys for Palo contended that a delayed ruling from Leath came five days too late for the player to be eligible for a transfer to another program. Palo, a senior who would only be eligible for the remainder of this season, agreed.'If they would have moved promptly and said we don’t want you, I would have understood,'Palo told the Register. 'I would have gone on my way. With the timing of the decision, I didn’t have a choice.'"

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140122/SPORTS020604/301220131/?odyssey=nav|head



 

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It all begins with his actions. ISU has a ton of failure in this, but it's Bubu's baby. He can go now.

This. It's crazy how many pro-bubu people can't grasp this.

There have been blunders on both sides of the fence during this, but you know what, had Bubu not committed any of those actions on that night that put his innocence or guilt into question, we wouldn't have this mess.

It all just needs to go away FFS.
 

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It all begins with his actions. ISU has a ton of failure in this, but it's Bubu's baby. He can go now.

His actions of being a college student? 99.8% of athletes have one night stands. Sports wouldn't be fun if you held all the good players to the ones you're holding Bubu. Innocent until proven guilty, and he isn't guilty.
 

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His actions of being a college student? 99.8% of athletes have one night stands. Sports wouldn't be fun if you held all the good players to the ones you're holding Bubu. Innocent until proven guilty, and he isn't guilty.

Bubu has missed more games than Brandon Davies did.
 

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Um, wouldn't his attorney Boles know? ISU is hitting them right between the eyes. This is major part of contention in this matter, isn't it? Either Boles and Bubu are lying, or they're idiots.

"Attorneys for Palo contended that a delayed ruling from Leath came five days too late for the player to be eligible for a transfer to another program. Palo, a senior who would only be eligible for the remainder of this season, agreed.'If they would have moved promptly and said we don’t want you, I would have understood,'Palo told the Register. 'I would have gone on my way. With the timing of the decision, I didn’t have a choice.'"

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140122/SPORTS020604/301220131/?odyssey=nav|head




You've heard Leath's side of this, we haven't heard the other side, and I'm guessing it won't take too much effort to prove that Leath should have made his decision much earlier to give Bubu any reaslistic chance of landing on another team. It seems Boles is keeping things close to the vest while ISU officials are making public statements. Time will tell if this attempt at damage control works for or against them in court. However this is only one of many questions about Leath's handling of this that will have to be answered.
 

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a) "staff members" is pretty vague. That could mean the receptionist in the College of Engineering departmental office, a lab technician who works in Gilman, an animal caretaker who cleans cages at the Vet school...you get my drift, I'm sure. Most "staff members" would not be privy to much more detailed information than the rest of us are, unless they are on the edges of the tight circle surrounding President Leath and his legal advisors...in which case they might want to quit gossiping and remember the privacy acts they may be breaking. b) "they say Bubu did do something" Yeah...he did something...but again, something is pretty vague. It could range from having what he thought were consensual sexual relations with a girl to him feeding her roofies and taking advantage of her incapacitation, and everything all along that line (note that I am not defining WHAT he did, merely the range that your "something" could feasibly cover)c) "they are 100% sure he did something"... Being 100% sure he did something is not the same thing as having proof. "She said he did it, therefore he did it" does not constitute proof. Remember those LaCross players down south, a few years back? Many people were 100% certain they did something too...
Well I can't name the position he is in, though he's not low on the totem pole. Like I said, me and my friend argued why is he still on the team if he's right? When we tried pressing him he didn't budge, just said the university knows Bubu committed a crime. The 100% thing was a quote more than anything. I wish I was joking around but I'm not. The fact of the matter is this thing is taking way too long to decide.
 

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Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was after classes started right? Just like McKay? So either he sits out a year effectively ending his career... Or transfers to a small school to only play last semester?

I'd stick at Iowa State too, knowing there was no reason to be kicked off and that was the school you loved. Not to mention those teammates are like family.
 

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Well I can't name the position he is in, though he's not low on the totem pole. Like I said, me and my friend argued why is he still on the team if he's right? When we tried pressing him he didn't budge, just said the university knows Bubu committed a crime. The 100% thing was a quote more than anything. I wish I was joking around but I'm not. The fact of the matter is this thing is taking way too long to decide.
Shouldn't he/they consider sending this evidence to the police then?
 

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Um, wouldn't his attorney Boles know? ISU is hitting them right between the eyes. This is major part of contention in this matter, isn't it? Either Boles and Bubu are lying, or they're idiots.

"Attorneys for Palo contended that a delayed ruling from Leath came five days too late for the player to be eligible for a transfer to another program. Palo, a senior who would only be eligible for the remainder of this season, agreed.'If they would have moved promptly and said we don’t want you, I would have understood,'Palo told the Register. 'I would have gone on my way. With the timing of the decision, I didn’t have a choice.'"

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140122/SPORTS020604/301220131/?odyssey=nav|head



Eligible is really stretching the truth. They would have supported a waiver for him to transfer. First off the likelihood that the NCAA approves it is low but who knows. If he would have gotten the waiver and that is about as big of an if as you can get wouldn't the school he is transferring to have to have not started also? That narrows an already narrow list of schools that would take him.

If you look at this more than Iowa State trying to cover their *** then you will never change your mind no matter what the evidence.


At this point there is no way we will know exactly what happened because there have been to many BS stories thrown out there.
 

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Re: More kindling for the Bubu dumpster fire...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was after classes started right? Just like McKay? So either he sits out a year effectively ending his career... Or transfers to a small school to only play last semester?

I'd stick at Iowa State too, knowing there was no reason to be kicked off and that was the school you loved. Not to mention those teammates are like family.

Mckays was after practice started. Start of classes doesn't matter. Start of practice does, if I understand correctly
 

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I've talked to some staff members and they say Bubu did do something. I had the same arguments as you guys did about him not getting proven of having any wrongdoing but they said they are 100% sure he did something. They didn't say anything else when I pressed them about it. I just feel something is being hidden that the fans might never know about with this.

URGENT! PLEASE HAVE THESE "STAFF MEMBERS", WHO "ARE 100% SURE HE DID SOMETHING", CONTACT THE STORY COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ASAP SO THEY CAN FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES AND THIS WHOLE FIASCO WILL FINALLY BE PUT TO BED. Way to Go IHavNoCyCash!!
 

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Well I can't name the position he is in, though he's not low on the totem pole. Like I said, me and my friend argued why is he still on the team if he's right? When we tried pressing him he didn't budge, just said the university knows Bubu committed a crime. The 100% thing was a quote more than anything. I wish I was joking around but I'm not. The fact of the matter is this thing is taking way too long to decide.
and in crime I mean not consensual.
 

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This. It's crazy how many pro-bubu people can't grasp this.

There have been blunders on both sides of the fence during this, but you know what, had Bubu not committed any of those actions on that night that put his innocence or guilt into question, we wouldn't have this mess.

It all just needs to go away FFS.

I guess you can count me in as one of the "pro Bubu people" but with that being written I can also state that there were a lot of poor decisions made all-around that night by everyone involved, Bubu included.

With that being written, he's paid a HELL of a lot bigger price than anyone else involved in this mess, including the other guy who got into trouble (whose name I don't even remember at the moment).

It's not like he's gotten away scott-free with anything here. I don't think he's necessarily a victim in the strictest sense of the word and isn't a "hero" or anything silly like that, but I would never want to go through what he's gone through this last year and a half.