Big Ten Hate
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Unfortunately, I agree. They have a huge population base and that earns them a lot of media exposure and money. They've got a hugely successful, cash cow TV network. The fact that they haven't been performing well on the football field in recent years but continue to rake in the cash and attention is frustrating for fans whose school plays in a highly unstable and less profitable conference, despite the fact that our conference's on-field performance has been better in recent years.
I always cheer for the Big 10 in bowls...mainly because I want to see those programs improve so they can beat Iowa. I always cheer against Big 12 schools because I don't want them using bowl victories to get an edge on ISU. I don't understand why more people are not like me...
I mean, why on earth would anyone want KSU to win this week? So Bill Snyder can walk into recruits living rooms, possibly right after or before CPR does, and brag about winning the Cotton Bowl? **** no, man! I hope Arkansas hangs 50 on Kansas State!!!! Kansas State is one of our main rivals...why would any self respecting ISU fan cheer for Kansas State to improve thier status as a program??
I mean, why on earth would anyone want KSU to win this week? So Bill Snyder can walk into recruits living rooms, possibly right after or before CPR does, and brag about winning the Cotton Bowl? **** no, man! I hope Arkansas hangs 50 on Kansas State!!!! Kansas State is one of our main rivals...why would any self respecting ISU fan cheer for Kansas State to improve thier status as a program??
I have them winning on my Bowl Pick'em....
However I wouldn't mind seeing them lose. Need at least one big team in the Big XII to lose only for the fact that we wouldn't be the only one. It's great for the conference though to win as many bowl games, because conference prestige does a lot for recruiting.
Currently they are 3-6 in the bowl and are 0-2 against B12 affiliated teams. Purdue and Illinois were responsible for two of the wins, Illinois fired their coach and the assistant coaches threatened to boycott the their bowl game. Heh and we were ranked 18th in the Leerfield Directors Cup.
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The New Years Day Bowl games are always the LOW POINT for BIG TEN Football. Every Year they get clobbered and everyone talks about how bad the conference is.
Just wait a couple of months and the media will turn the BIG TEN conference around by talking about expansion and how big their Football stadiums are.
BIG Footballl is awesome from Feb - Aug, but gets pounded from Sept - Jan.
Just wait a couple of months and the media will turn the BIG TEN conference around by talking about expansion and how big their Football stadiums are.
BIG Footballl is awesome from Feb - Aug, but gets pounded from Sept - Jan.
Your logic is Back-Arsewards. You want the Big 12 to do well and the Big 10 to stink. No one wants to play in a pathetic conference like the Big 10.
It's not that difficult. If you live in Iowa, you are surrounded by B10 states. I can't speak for everyone, but I get to hear about how great the B10 is at work and from friends on a regular basis when in fact it's a fairly horrible conference. It's annoying, it's old and it's tiresome.
It doesn't help that Jim Delaney is a pretentious ***, he's right up there with Mike Slive and Larry Scott.
In regards to Iowa, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has heard how great they are against their "stiff B10 schedule" and how "ISU has it easy because they are in the B12". It wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the B12 would wipe the floor with the B10 without breaking much of a sweat.
I understand your logic, but on the whole its short-sighted. Ultimately the brand of our conference has an effect on our brand as well. We are positively impacted from the big 12 being viewed as strong, just as we would be negatively impacted by the big 10 being viewed as weak.
I would rather have any of them compared to what the Big 12 has suffered through. Anyone of them would have been better than Dan Beebe.
Where is the proof of this. The only proof there would be the Bama/PSU game which wasn't an extreme blowout. They won by 16 and PSu isn't Michigan. Not even close. Then, MSU beat Georgia. I don't really care if there was a coaching **** up, they beat Georgia. Sure, Florida beat OSU, but neither of those teams are any good. I guess I'm just not sure where the proof Michigan would get waxed is. I don't think KSU would beat Michigan either. Michigans front four is probably as good as KSU has faced. Stanford would probably beat them because they can throw the ball. I will be shocked if Tech beats Michigan.
Do you own a map?
People are going to grow a disdain for what is in their near vacinity. What is going on in the P12 is going to be discussion in the Northeast. SEC Southeast.
B10 in the Midwest (that is where the state of Iowa is located).
I disagree. Texas kids want to play in the Big 12. It will always be their conference of choice. Being in the Big 12 compared to the ACC or Big East isn't helping in Florida or California. In our case, we want everyone we recruit against to lose. That's KSU, Baylor, Tech, and anyone else we are fighting.
1. I'll switch conference names, no problem.
2. Nebraska almost lost their accreditation in 2000, so it should not have come as a surprise. Yet there was Delaney, talking about how important accreditation was . . .
3 & 4. Both teams have appeared on "Big 10s Greatest Games", showing games that were NOT when these teams were in the Big 10.
5. Relative to the other teams allowed in the BCS, yes, those teams were predominantly the easier opponents. The Big 10 always gets a second BCS game (non-Rose Bowl) and it is almost always against an easier BCS opponent.
6. Coincidence that two of the teams willing to be slightly more forward-thinking from an offensive standpoint are two of the better teams currently in the Big 10?
7. Short memory - how about the 5 years before that?
8. Wow, again blatant fact-picking. Three SEC East teams, which was clearly the weaker division. If the Georgia FG kicker doesn't blow it, the Big 10 goes 0-5 today. How did Houston look against the hyped Penn State defense today? Doesn't look good when one of the top teams in your conference gets SMOKED by a Conference USA team. Ouch.
This is just my opinion, but until we get a real National Championship playoff system in Football, Bowl Games are more about propaganda then who is the best team....
To say the Big 10 is not one of the Top Conferences is silly, the have stability, money, power and prestige.
The Pac 10 (now12) has something like 400+ National Titles in all Sports, I believe the Big 10 was either 2nd or 3rd with over 200+ (too lazy to look up again)....
I have always been a Big 8 (12) fan, but you just have to look at this past year to see how unstable some conferences are, some where growing...? others almost imploded....
To say the Big 10 is not one of the Top Conferences is silly, the have stability, money, power and prestige.
The Pac 10 (now12) has something like 400+ National Titles in all Sports, I believe the Big 10 was either 2nd or 3rd with over 200+ (too lazy to look up again)....
I have always been a Big 8 (12) fan, but you just have to look at this past year to see how unstable some conferences are, some where growing...? others almost imploded....
I think you're both right. My take is that we want 2 dominant teams every year (doesn't have to be the same teams) and then a bunch of middle of the pack teams. Having 2 dominant teams legitimizes the conference and after that we want a bunch of teams that garner just enough respect to keep the conference balanced while giving us a good chance to rise up to 3rd (with a 9-3 or 10-2 record) in any given year. So, I always watch the non-conf games and pick the 2 teams I think have the best chance to win the conference, then I cheer for ISU and those two teams for the year.
The 2 dominant model is pretty much what the SEC has had for the last few years and it's worked pretty well for them.
Ok, that was a statement of opinion, but when you look at comparative strength of schedules, Michigan does not have as good of wins as those programs, and worse losses.
Michigan has one win against a ranked team, and that team now has 4 losses and could easily finish the season unranked. Michigan State is probably their best win.
ugh, I'm so sick of the B1G network claiming old Nebraska games and especially players as their own. Before the season started, they were running down the top 10 Big 10 QBs of the 2000s. Eric Crouch was #2 on their list. When did Eric Crouch play in the Big 10? If we can somehow talk Notre Dame into joining the Big XII, do we get to put the 4 horseman in as the greatest backs in the Big XII ever?
If you're basing your opinion on realignment, then you aren't talking about what happens on the field, which the rest of us are.
The Big 10 is extremely stable, and generates a ton of money. It also has great academics. No one is arguing these things. However, none of that translates to on-field success.
We're talking about college football. Within that realm, of winning college football games against teams from other conferences, the Big 10 is very poor. Yet they are treated by the media and the overall college football system as if they are very successful at winning college football games.
The NBA logo himself played for a B12 team. Claimed via conference affiliation.
