*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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Not necessarily. While their rights might be tied up until 2017, the drama could certainly start up again sooner. Say in 2015 if a couple schools say 'we intend to leave the big 12 before the 2017 football season'. They'd have their rights back (so no penalty), and we can start all this drama again. And as we know, once one school leaves, others might leave too, and just dissolve the conference and get their media rights back immediately.
6 years is way too short if we're trying to attract other members. Should be at least 10. Then again, maybe we're going to double down on the idiocy and accept someone who gives us no benefit and is desperate to be in the big 12 (TCU).
New Tier 1 will be effective in year 5 (negotiation beginning in year 4), which will likely require renewing the "Grant of Media".
Just thinking out loud, but if OU creates it's own network, wouldn't that in a roundabout way create some stability? The biggest threats were it Texas or OU left. No one wanted Texas because of the LHN. Wouldn't no one want OU then, because they'd have their own network? Wouldn't that, in a way, ensure that neither team would be going to another conference as long as they have their own network?
was what was reported perfect? no, what comes out in the next couple weeks will be more important, once JP goes on the record I will have more confidence in what the agreements are, seems clear they haven't gotten texas to the point of where they want them so forming the work group...
What would be best would be for their network to be with someone other than ESPN. That way it would be very difficult, if not impossible, for OUtv and LHN to merged to form a new regional network for the Pac-12(16).
Today is the nail in the coffin? What? I don't understand why some of you guys are so opposed to schools having their own networks. It's 3rd tier rights. That means any conference team that has their FB games on Longhorn network going to get paid for it. If everybody says no, then all the Longhorn network gets is a game like Texas vs. Rice every year.
Yeah, I think as a whole it'd be more beneficial if there was a B12 network, but think about how much money a school like Texas is leaving on the table by not going independent. Let them have their network.
Eventually all the schools that have options to jump conferences (OU and Mizzou) are going to have their own network anyways, so they'll like the chance to feel special too by having their own network. The schools that can't afford to make their own network don't have other options anyways, so maybe we'll see like a Big 7 network (Texas Tech, Okla St, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa State, Baylor, Team #10?). I bet if all these teams would pool in together you could get 1-2 million a year in addition to the exposure.
Maybe I'll look back in the future and be wrong, but with such limited content available for 3rd tier rights, I just don't get how letting schools keep these networks are such a big deal.
Nope, no school in their right mind outside of BYU would join this conference. 10 teams is not enough for this conference to survive.
Any chance of actually getting back to 4 non conference games for football?
This was the biggest change I was hoping for. Having the same 9 set games every year just sounds.. well.. kinda boring.
I was really hoping for 12+ teams and divisional play again. Our only likely way to ever sneak into a conference championship (in football)
This was the biggest change I was hoping for. Having the same 9 set games every year just sounds.. well.. kinda boring.
I was really hoping for 12+ teams and divisional play again. Our only likely way to ever sneak into a conference championship (in football)
The Big East schools would love to join this conference with how their conference is going down the crapper.
Pitt thought the ACC was a better option then the Big 12...less money and they could have made their own network right? Pitt was smart...
When you are about dead you grasp at any miracle cure, like many are thinking the Big 12 is somehow ok.
Here's the pecking order
Big10
SEC
ACC
PAC
B12
Big East
Mt West
Conf USA
Big 12 can get any team from any conference below them.
I think the conference expansion topic would literally be closed down, as far as armageddon goes, for at least three years if the B12 does get each member to sign over its TV rights.
???Pitt had a B12 offer?
Pitt wanted out of the BE and is a better geographic fit for either the ACC or B10. Those would always be picked over the B12 due to geography even if they had an offer from the B12.
Do you think Pitt would join the SEC over the ACC? I'll answer that for you...no they would not.
You mean like Pitt! UCONN, Rutgers and West Va will not be big 12 bound. Who else do you want from the Big East? L'ville or Cincy, AWESOME! Who cares about Mt. West and Conf USA.
Big 12 teams make more money per team than the ACC. And being in the Big 12 gives you access to Texas recruiting. Reports were that Pitt was close to joining the Big 12 before Boren opened his mouth.
If Pitt was closer to the Big 12 teams geographically, I bet they would've ended up in the Big 12. But the ACC is a good move for them because of the proximity to their rivals.
I'm just not convinced though that bloated conferences of 16ish teams are the most stable in the long run. Maybe I'll be wrong though.
All rights or Tier 1/2? I think armageddon is a certainty now that individual networks will be allowed to continue.
And dont they realize that TX would have left but its individual network (LHN) was a deal breaker for everyone? No one would accept them and the LHN into their conference. Make a bigXII or block all others.
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