Tennesee State Thread

Really because how often this season have any of those fouled out? Unlike in the past, our bigs are very good at not getting into foul trouble.

I didn't say they'll have foul trouble; it's a prediction that TSU will go after them.

Do you not think that will be their plan?
 
Tennessee State’s only chance is if they turn Iowa State over 15+ times. So yes, they’ll probably dial up pressure. Then they’ll lose their legs on offense in the first five minutes of the second half, as these mid majors haven’t had to play 40:00 going 110% on both ends against top-tier competition all season
 
Tennessee State’s only chance is if they turn Iowa State over 15+ times. So yes, they’ll probably dial up pressure. Then they’ll lose their legs on offense in the first five minutes of the second half, as these mid majors haven’t had to play 40:00 going 110% on both ends against top-tier competition all season
Agree. They will be aggressive w ball pressure and chuck 3s.

Have to be strong and smart w the ball and draw fouls. While not getting called for "even it out" ticky tack fouls.
 
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Agree. They will be aggressive w ball pressure and chuck 3s.

Have to be strong and smart w the ball and draw fouls. While not getting called for "even it out" ticky tack fouls.

I'd bet the coaches want to pull their hair out when ISU gets the shot clock down to like 3 seconds, the trap comes, and someone slaps at the ball for the called reach in.
 
Don’t get confused. They aren’t good guards. They are good OVC guards.
Thankfully the staff doesn't take this approach. Every team at this point has players that can play "above" their level so better prepare like they can beat you....and that is what our staff will do. I think we'll win comfortably, but the tournament is littered with teams that have lost to "OVC level" players.
 
Thankfully the staff doesn't take this approach. Every team at this point has players that can play "above" their level so better prepare like they can beat you....and that is what our staff will do. I think we'll win comfortably, but the tournament is littered with teams that have lost to "OVC level" players.

Yeah any team that wins 23 games isn't going to come out and lay down.

I have no doubt the coaches and players will understand that.

I'd guess the Gameday thread gets rolling if/when TSU goes on a run or if things are tight for a while, etc.

'But Vitale said ISU's a FF team! Sure doesn't look like they even want to be there to me!'
 
True. ISU's non-con truly dreadful at the bottom.

Here's the non-conference (parentheses NCAAT seed, remainder is NET):

(W2) at Purdue
(E5) vs. St. John’s
(S9) Iowa
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Creighton 83
Syracuse 86
Mississippi State 112
(***Tennessee State 172***)
Long Beach State 257
Houston Christian 294
Grambling 305
Stonehill 332
Eastern Illinois 319
FDU 334
Alcorn 349
So ISU's non-con average was 194.3

And here are Tenn State's non con games:
19 Tenn
63 Belmont
111 UNLV
159 W Kentucky
239 UNC Asheville
288 Chattanooga
310 Alabama A&M

Average 169.9

They also had 3 Non D1 games which I believe don't factor into the NET or season W-L.

So that is why their non-con was ranked higher.

But as others have said, it is a stupid stat especially when the two SOS metrics they have are non-con SOS and overall SOS. The non-con is in both so those whose strength is in the non-con because they play in a crap league get their strength counted twice while those who play in gauntlet leagues like the Big 12 only get their strength counted once.

ISU could do themselves a big favor by replacing two of the worst buy game opponents with a couple of games in the 145-155 range. Strategically place them when the team is just slogging through terrible opponents. That would bring their average for Non-con games down to the neighborhood of Tenn State's and help the overall SOS at the end of the season. It would also be fewer Q4 games and a couple more Q3 games on the profile.
 
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Look up their roster. That was a flat out lie. So was the assessment of the 3 point shooting. One is not bad, again playing horrible competition (40ish percent), the rest of the shooters who play are not great.

This dude plays minutes at the 4 for them and listing him at 6'2 is like us listing KP at 6'4, maybe standing on a dictionary. I never said they were a great team but if you don't make the two 6'6" guards uncomfortable, they have the potential to get on a heater. Go watch their OVC championship game.
 
Thankfully the staff doesn't take this approach. Every team at this point has players that can play "above" their level so better prepare like they can beat you....and that is what our staff will do. I think we'll win comfortably, but the tournament is littered with teams that have lost to "OVC level" players.
Hopefully the players play like that. After playing stellar basketball the past 3 games we're due for a dud. That's how this season has been; we play a few 10/10 games, then we do a complete 180 and play like @ss for a few games.

I hope to god we've finally learned our lesson and have snapped out of that habit... Yes even for Tennessee State.
 
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So ISU's non-con average was 194.3

And here are Tenn State's non con games:
19 Tenn
63 Belmont
111 UNLV
159 W Kentucky
239 UNC Asheville
288 Chattanooga
310 Alabama A&M

Average 169.9

They also had 3 Non D1 games which I believe don't factor into the NET or season W-L.

So that is why their non-con was ranked higher.

But as others have said, it is a stupid stat especially when the two SOS metrics they have are non-con SOS and overall SOS. The non-con is in both so those whose strength is in the non-con because they play in a crap league get their strength counted twice while those who play in gauntlet leagues like the Big 12 only get their strength counted once.

ISU could do themselves a big favor by replacing two of the worst buy game opponents with a couple of games in the 145-155 range. Strategically place them when the team is just slogging through terrible opponents. That would bring their average for Non-con games down to the neighborhood of Tenn State's and help the overall SOS at the end of the season. It would also be fewer Q4 games and a couple more Q3 games on the profile.
What would the cost be for adding those type of teams?
 
What would the cost be for adding those type of teams?
Well, if cost is the issue, you could add a home and away agreement with one and cover two years for free, but nobody seems to like that idea. Or even a 2 home, 1 away - you might be able to get one of those free or at least cheap. But if you are including away games it might be wise to go for more like the 120-130 range so that away game becomes a Q2.

If you believe Miami of Ohio they desperately tried but they couldn't get anyone to schedule them at all. Granted, they ended up NET 64, but you get my point.
 
Hopefully the players play like that. After playing stellar basketball the past 3 games we're due for a dud. That's how this season has been; we play a few 10/10 games, then we do a complete 180 and play like @ss for a few games.

I hope to god we've finally learned our lesson and have snapped out of that habit... Yes even for Tennessee State.

This describes a whole bunch of teams. It's the nature of a basketball season.

Expecting things to stay as is a week after some of their best basketball is probably unrealistic.