I watched 10 minutes of the Magic/Hornets game last night... and saw three traveling calls.
but don't let facts get in the way.
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I watched 10 minutes of the Magic/Hornets game last night... and saw three traveling calls.
but don't let facts get in the way.
good research but number of fouls called in a game is a worthless statistic. Not all fouls are created equal. Just because more fouls are called on team x doesn't mean that they didn't get the benefit of more calls throughout the game.
Referees usually keep pretty good track of the number of fouls and in most games the fouls end up being close to even (except for when the team is fouling late to stay in it).
I am not saying we're getting screwed by the refs. I thought the way the refs called the KSU game benefited them, but it wasn't the difference in the game. Officiating in general has become awful because they have allowed the style of play to get too physical.
Really? And how do you know this? Are you a big 12 official? Or are you just making random assumptions because you officiate JH games?
Do you actually know what the primary coverage areas even are? Or what each official should be looking at when the ball goes into the post or when someone comes slashing through the lane? Probably not....
You know what's amazing? I was just over on a Hornet's message board and they were complaining about how bad the refs were in their game because of all of the traveling being called. Strange.
I justed hated that whenever a foul was called on KSU, we would drain a 3 or something similar. I am liking the way hockey does penalties more and more and more these days.
I asked about this...It's actually the correct and accurate call.
If two refs have different calls, they meet, call the double foul and it's a jump ball.
I really don't see anything wrong with the double foul from a rule stand point...Where it hurts ISU is with number of players available of who gets the foul. Opponent gets a foul, no big deal, go to the bench. Brackins gets a foul, damn it, we are in serious trouble.
no one on here is blaming the refs for the loss we are just merely stating that the refs were terrible in the game.
Nope...Jump, in the case of two refs who see and call different things. Charge vs block is most common.
You are absolutely wrong. A double foul is a point of interruption. The ONLY time it is a jump ball if there is no team control.
You can never have a double foul and have one call be a charge and the other be a block. In a case where you have simultaneous fouls (a foul from two officials at different spots on the floor), which is not a double foul, you still have point of interruption.
Knowing the rules helps a lot .
It seemed as if some of the fouls called on KSU took most of our momentum away which is what ****** me off the most. there were several but two distinctively stand out.
1. Colvin's dish to CB, which the defender got called for blocking. I don't think i'm the only one who didn't hear the whistle.
2. MG's 3/4 court pass to one of our guards that resulted in an away from the ball foul on KSU.
1. Colvin's dish to CB, which the defender got called for blocking. I don't think i'm the only one who didn't hear the whistle.
2. MG's 3/4 court pass to one of our guards that resulted in an away from the ball foul on KSU.
The announcers said the place was so loud that nobody heard the whistle. I remember games like that in Hilton were you couldn't hear the whistle because the place was going crazy. Hard to blame the official on that one.
Its still a double foul. Simultaneous fouls would be two fouls at the same instant on differing players (i.e. A1 fouls B1 at the same instant as B2 fouls A2)
As the block and charge were called on the only two players involved it would ba a double foul.
What is your problem? Not everyone on here has a referee handbook, they are merely stating that a double foul doesnt happen often and when it does it kind of catches ppl of guard because they do not understand what it is. You dont have to be a ****** about it, who are you to belittle someone.
You can't have a double foul and one be a charge and one be a block. It's one or the other. If you do have different calls, one official is going to overrule the other official and make the call.
A double foul is intended for contact that is happening away from the ball (mainly post play, don't think I have ever seen it anywhere else).
