insert another word "in" somewhere in this sentence and we might start to get to UK or UNLV level of recruiting.
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insert another word "in" somewhere in this sentence and we might start to get to UK or UNLV level of recruiting.
Why do people think Edwards is a better "fit?" We need to replace nearly 90% of our scoring and Brown averaged 20 ppg. That's pretty D good fit.
From everything I'm reading, I think we'd happily take the commitment of any of the major guys (Juiston, Brown, Edwards, Shayok) we're talking to. If it gets down to one open spot and one of those guys still isn't on board, we'd probably check with them before pulling the trigger on someone else.
I hate that I'm typing this, but just trying to illustrate a point.
Brown is a scoring PG/volume shooter. Edwards is a shooter (high percentage) who doesn't demand the ball (maybe "demand" isn't the right word; I mean he will get his shots based on someone facilitating...drive and kick outs).
Wigginton will play immediately. He is that good. He and Brown are similar type players. Jackson could be a spot up shooter, a la Edwards, but he also demands the ball like Wigginton will (and Brown would).
Edwards is a "fit" simply because he's a better shooter, and we already have slashers.
Maybe that doesn't help, but that's my line of thinking anyway.
Agree with you on all you said. As fun of a player as Brown is and how much fun he would be to watch, I've really started leaning towards Edwards the past few days because of his ability to be a spot up shooter and we have very few of those.
I hear what you're saying. I just typically judge a player based off the teams that are after him. Oregon and Gonzaga just got done playing in the final four and both teams return much of their backcourt. They are still after Brown for good reason. I'm not saying Edwards cant/won't be a heckuva player but Brown has already proven it.
People need to pump the brakes on Wigginton just a bit also. He's a stud be he will be a freshman. He isn't going to step on campus and average 16-17 ppg.
I have visions of KJ Bluford with Edwards. I'll take the proven D1 commodity over the JUCO shooter every day and then alter the gameplan to make it work. I've always said that I think we're going to look more like Texas A&M or FL than a Hoiball team going forward. Get slashers, get length and power inside. Run it, rebound it, block shots/bother moreso than run it, space it, and defend every possession for 25 seconds.
He could though. I think it depends on how we run point. Is it going to be a duo or will one of Jackson or Wigg stick at the PG spot?
I think 16 is a little high, but I have no doubt in my mind that he averages at least 12ppg next year.
KJ Bluford was brought in to be a McGee type replacement. He one major skill was outside shooting but a minus in size ball handling and defense due to size. McGee made up for it with his great shooting once Bluford shown to be less than that he lost his minutes due to other limitations.
I watched a couple of games Edwards played for FNWCC. He rebounded and played the point for them a lot in addition to shooting 46% from 3. He has he size to contribute on the defensive end too. There is a reason that Edward is a top 20 JC recruit and Edwards was just inside the top 60 when he came.
I don't think we should compare the two just because they are in JC.
We've been spoiled with Naz and Matt. Brown isnt as pure of a shooter as those two but with all due respect to he is the far superior overall scorer. Trust me he will still stretch the floor shooting 35% from three. His ability to score in a variety of ways will stress the defense.
Do you not remember Georges Niang (6'8)or Jameel McKay (6'9)? Those two are taller than Young and Juiston, plus they had Nader, another guy who was 6'8. That means all three guys from just two seasons ago were taller/equal to the one you're talking about. The year before was Niang, McKay and Hogue. Prior to that was Niang, McKay and Ejim, prior that it was Niang and Ejim plus two tall guys Babb and Clyburn at the 2 and 3. So other than last year, its the smallest frontline we've had since McKay was on campus and would be the smallest all around team this decade. No idea where you're getting the biggest, unless you just became an ISU fan last year.
Brown is a better scorer and better player than Edwards. And when you're replacing 85% of your scoring it makes him a better fit. But we also have room and need for role players so Edwards would be nice, and a more realistic get. If both were to be on next year's roster we got substantially better, although it's not Edwards that would start.
Wigginton impressed me on Friday and I optimistic he can be the primary pg. But those thinking we don't need Brown because of him and rather need a guy like Bluford, I mean Edwards, are a bit too high. He's not ready to come in and carry a team from the scoring standpoint, which is exemplified in him missing the rim in two layups.
Wigginton impressed me on Friday and I optimistic he can be the primary pg. But those thinking we don't need Brown because of him and rather need a guy like Bluford, I mean Edwards, are a bit too high. He's not ready to come in and carry a team from the scoring standpoint, which is exemplified in him missing the rim in two layups.
Correct... I never said they weren't. But I thought you were arguing the frontcourt will be smaller than previous years' frontcourts.
And regardless, next years' frontcourt will not be smaller than 2016-2017's.
Next year's should be fairly similar to 2014-2016. Lard at 6'9", Kosongo at 6'9", Young at 6'8", and if we get Juiston that's 6'7". Very comparable in size to Niang/McKay days (although not going to say anything about talent and pure awesomeness.)
I wouldn't say Young and Juiston are tiny compared to Georges and Ejim or Georges and McKay/Nader. And when you take into account post play, which is largely why people worry about size, any lineup without Georges is bigger.
Your tiny argument comes down to Jackson and Wigginton, which isn't functionally that important, particularly when Wigginton is a better athlete than the guys that were a couple inches taller.
Why is it so hard to comprehend that the staff wants both Brown and Edwards? Not just one or the other.
Yeah, I was thinking about J. Long with all these names being thrown around. If we load up on too many wing players, it may be hard for him to find a way to get on the court. I don't claim to have any insight on how good he is or will become over the off-season but just from a numbers standpoint, that's a lot of guys - potentially - vying for PT over the next couple years. It could be that we strike out on most of these guys but if we land a few of them, it'll be competitive for those minutes.
