Yep. Purdy having a QB rating over 160 in conference games is elite
Purdy's Early Performance
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Well, if by “can’t get open against OU” you mean “constantly held by OU”, agree. That’s bothersome.
Against TCU, Brock only had what, four incompletions? Against what is widely recognized as one of the best secondaries in the country? Not sure I’d complain about that.
Breece has been good.
Brock has been good.
Consider this: we passed on only 6 of our first and 10 plays last week. We got 5 first downs.
We ran on whatever the remainder (about 25?) of those first and 10 plays last week. I need to go double check, but I don't think Breece even got 5 first downs on those plays.
When our coaching staff chooses to run the ball we place ourselves in less favorable down and distance situations. We need to let Brock throw on 1st down and we can score 40 per game.
I disagree. Throw on first down enough to keep the D honest, but hammering the defense again and again wears it down for fourth quarter domination. By the latter stages of the game there are a lot of defenders who want someone else to tackle Breece.
Also, Breece got a lot of ~5 yard gains on first down. 2nd and 5 leaves the playbook wide open for that second down play. When 1st down is an incomplete pass, 2nd and 10 is a lot tougher to call. Being "behind the chains" is a real thing. Defenses can do a lot more on the pass rush when you are behind the chains.
I disagree here. The data reflects that while the defense does get tired, so does the offense.
Also, how are Breece's 4th Q numbers compared to 1st Q numbers?
I know that Breece got 99 of his 139(?) rushing yards in the second half without looking it up. The fatigue of a defense is real. Generally offensive road graders have a blocking assignment and they don't have to look for a secondary or tertiary target. They can but they can also conserve energy on selected plays. All 11 defensive players should be pursuing the ball until the whistle on virtually every play - especially every running play. That is a lot more running.
This. I can tell you during warm ups and first qtr, I was running and maybe even skipping to the fridge to get another refreshment. By the 4th qtr was fatigue setting in? Was endless trips to the bathroom causing mental exhaustion? Your damn right it was. But you know I did when we tired it back up at 30? That’s right. I went right back across the living room and opened that fridge with pride. Because I am cyclone goddamnit and that’s what we do. #teambeforeself
Those frequent runs on first down lead to the occasional easy passes on first down. 2nd and 6 is a far better down and distance situation than 2nd and 10. If you can average 4+ yards you should run. Frequent running and wearing the defense down leads to the 4th quarter 75 yard run. Its a good mix up, but we are not trying to be air raid.
Purdy has had frequent early pressure, and has scrambled quite a bit to make plays. He has thrown in to double coverage a lot, but as long as it is Charlie at the other end I don't mind. Statistics will improve, we've faced probably the 2 toughest defenses on the schedule already.
My horrible idiotic and uneducated assessment.
Purdy was great two years ago because those were his best receivers thanks largely to Butler and Jones and he had solid backups. They let him run and move out of the pocket, aka take risks with his body. That's when Purdy is at his best.
Last year not having butler hurt. Pettway was ok, but not Butler. Our two best receivers were tiny guys. Without a solid backup, sorry Mitchell fans, they didn't take as many risks with Purdy.
This year it doesn't seem any receivers have truly stepped up yet. I've seen threads on both Shaw and Milton as to where they are. Eventually I think Shaw, Milton, and Hutch will get it together and be good. However coaches may still choose to keep Purdy from taking risk due to not having a solid back up. Had Mitchell stayed I think they would have allowed him to get out of the pocket more and create more things with his feet.
Purdy is still a darn good quarterback and I think his stats will get much better as the year goes on. He's played pretty descent competition so far this year.
Purdy was great two years ago because those were his best receivers thanks largely to Butler and Jones and he had solid backups. They let him run and move out of the pocket, aka take risks with his body. That's when Purdy is at his best.
Last year not having butler hurt. Pettway was ok, but not Butler. Our two best receivers were tiny guys. Without a solid backup, sorry Mitchell fans, they didn't take as many risks with Purdy.
This year it doesn't seem any receivers have truly stepped up yet. I've seen threads on both Shaw and Milton as to where they are. Eventually I think Shaw, Milton, and Hutch will get it together and be good. However coaches may still choose to keep Purdy from taking risk due to not having a solid back up. Had Mitchell stayed I think they would have allowed him to get out of the pocket more and create more things with his feet.
Purdy is still a darn good quarterback and I think his stats will get much better as the year goes on. He's played pretty descent competition so far this year.
2nd and 6 is far better down than 2nd and 10 - I agree here. Let's look at the stats.
This year we've run 76 plays on 1st and 10, 26 pass plays and 50 run plays.
Of those pass plays, 17 of 26 (65%) have resulted in 4 or more yards, placing us at 2nd and 6 or better.
Of those rush plays, 28 of 50 (56%) have resulted in 4 or more yards, placing us at 2nd and 6 or better.
Which play is more efficient? The pass on 1st and 10.
Additionally, that 75 yard run that happened? That with over 9 minutes left in the second quarter. Was the TCU defense gassed in the 2nd quarter?
And regarding the early pressure, Purdy has taken ZERO sacks and thrown ZERO interceptions on those 26 passes on 1st and 10. The pressure he faces is because we place him in 2nd and long and 3rd and long situations because of the (very few) incomplete passes and the run-heavy approach on 1st down.
Here's all of the 1st and 10 plays against Oklahoma. Purdy was 6 for 7 (there's one incompletion right before the 65 yard pass). Every completion went for more than 20 yards. ONE rush went for more than 20 yards.
I'm not saying we should go full air raid, but look at that. Imagine passing just a few more times on those 1st and 10 plays.
I'm not saying we should go full air raid, but look at that. Imagine passing just a few more times on those 1st and 10 plays.
Good thing there's no relationship between utilization and efficiency.
Agreed, when running utilization is too high it is inefficient. Glad to have you on board.
I am curious if any of those rush plays were actually intended to be pass plays but turned into scrambles or sacks. Which might not really change your point any.
Sacks are listed in the play by play data as "Sacks" and I grouped them with passes, but Purdy hasn't taken any sacks on 1st and 10 plays.
The scrambles are a question mark, as the data doesn't say if it is a scramble or run.
Nope -- none of them were. Though two of the 2 yard rushes and one of the 8 yard rushes went for touchdowns. And, of course, the last -2 rush was the Victory formation.
I think this can be deceptive. Do we even get the 65 yard td pass without running the ball so much on first down? The safety bit on the run face to spring X for the TD. I think that has a lot to do with the large yardage when passing the ball on first down.
If we pass the majority of time on first down, you would see defenses adjust.
Hmm I need to figure out how to remove victory formation.
We probably do. Play action has been proven to be effective regardless of the volume of runs.
