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Posted the same thing in the football forum. What you have written here is exactly why ISU Athletics has the lousy reputation and tradition that it does. We continually write off year after year after year. How LONG does it take to put a decent BB team on the court? In a country with 10,000 high schools is it really that impossible to find 4-5 players who want to play ball at a high major school.
I am done with patience and excuses. These people are paid salaries that most of us can only dream of to produce WINNING teams. Start winning or find yourself another line of work. All of us in the 'real' world deal with these same pressures daily. Why do these people get pass after pass for failure?
I see. So you want them to wave a magic wand, and just "start winning".
Agree completely. The right coach can win here and do it early. To think we need to be "patient" for 5 or 6 years to even field a team that can finish in the upper half of the conference is nuts.
Agree completely. The right coach can win here and do it early. To think we need to be "patient" for 5 or 6 years to even field a team that can finish in the upper half of the conference is nuts.
I see. So you want them to wave a magic wand, and just "start winning".
Maybe it's because their job depends on eighteen year old kids? Or because there were problems they inherited, rather than created?
This program has been in flux for a long time now, you realize. Since Tinsley and Fizer left. There are no quick fixes. It just doesn't happen.
Indeed. So who said anything about 5 or 6 years?Yes. Rebuilding a basketball team of 11 players (with only maybe 9 consistently seeing playing time) is a lot different than rebuilding a football team of 80 or so players.
My biggest concern with him was not on court execution but recruiting...my concerns were clearly bass-ackwards.
The program has been in flux due to poor upper management (coaching). If we were talking football, I might be more inclined to agree, but this is basketball where we need two good players, and then a small handful of role players to be successful in any conference.I see. So you want them to wave a magic wand, and just "start winning".
Maybe it's because their job depends on eighteen year old kids? Or because there were problems they inherited, rather than created?
This program has been in flux for a long time now, you realize. Since Tinsley and Fizer left. There are no quick fixes. It just doesn't happen.
This may be hard to believe, but even Johnny, Tim and Larry had nights when their teams came out flat. It happens.We have the fans. We have the money. We don't need a miracle. we need a system that will compete on the floor night in and night out with drive and enthusiasm and fundamentals. :yes:
Indeed. So who said anything about 5 or 6 years?
Note that right now, we have one scholarship player who has been here more than a year and a half. Oh, make that one player.
Missing the point folks. We don't need a magic wand. :smile:
We need a system that the kids want to play in and some how some way for the players to play solid b-ball and the wins will come.
We have the fans. We have the money. We don't need a miracle. we need a system that will compete on the floor night in and night out with drive and enthusiasm and fundamentals. :yes:
Yeah, good point. Drake had a really crappy team last year, didn't they?One more note on this whole 'patience' theory. ISU got punked by a first year coach in Mark Phelps at Drake ...
This may be hard to believe, but even Johnny, Tim and Larry had nights when their teams came out flat. It happens.