*** Official IOWA STATE VS Oregon State Game(Day) Thread ***

[ChickenNuggetMan]

Since I was actually able to watch this one, here’s my unsolicited takes on those who saw the floor:

Haliburton: You know what you’re getting from him. Elite PG. Capable 3P shooter. Can’t afford to have him off the floor.

Jacobson: Easily the hardest working player we have. Dustin Hogue like effort. Can have some good shooting streaks but not always consistent. Good rebounder due to effort.

Nixon: Another hustle player. Great leadership and hard nosed defender. A borderline offensive liability at times. Not a great shooter.

Young: The big strong guy we all know. Great at filling up the lane. Decent rebounder. Average offensive threat. Not a great ball handler.

Bolton: A bit of an unrefined talent, but with very high upside. Good shooter, but suffers from poor shot selection at times. Crazy athlete, but can get out of control.

Conditt: Elite shot blocker. Good on defense and an offensive option as well. As the tallest, longest person on the team, would like to see him get more rebounds. Seems to get out hustled often.

Jackson: Another unrefined talent. A capable shooter and ball handler, seems to have issues with confidence.

Griffin: Much improved from last year. Strong and athletic, with an improving shot. If he can develop his driving game, he will be a great offensive weapon.

I’m sure some of you will disagree, but those are my takes.

 

[kentkel]

We definitely had some mental lapses - both offensively and defensively & those were the times that OSU was able to either take or extend leads. There were moments, too, when you could see a lot to like about this team. More than our lapses in D or O, my frustration is more with the fact that OSU made soooo many tough shots (and I'm not talking about Tinkle here). How many made shots came after our defender was "all over the shooter" or the shooter made some acrobatic shot?

 

[Snyder21]

ok what constitutes “informed discussion?” Who is the arbitrator of deciding what defines it

Don't make it more confusing than it needs to be. If someone backs up their point with logical reasoning, it shouldn't be discredited. If someone wants to say the HC doesn't know what he's doing and makes terrible decisions without offering up anything of substance, it's trolling.

 

[stormchaser2014]

Someone tell me what to think.

 

[trevn]

A lot of hot takes in here. Keep em coming!

 

[isucyfan]

I am surprised that Grill didn't get a couple of minutes after looking capable in the first game. I thought he could have come off the bench and hit a three or two. Also telling that Lewis. a junior, couldn't get off the bench, but Tre Jackson could.

 

[NENick]

Traveling and couldn't watch or listen. Hoped to get some serious analysis. "Team sucks," "coach sucks." That's the kind of hard-hitting analysis I was looking for.
(FYI, I liked that they came back, on the road.)

 

[deadeyededric]

I am surprised that Grill didn't get a couple of minutes after looking capable in the first game. I thought he could have come off the bench and hit a three or two. Also telling that Lewis. a junior, couldn't get off the bench, but Tre Jackson could.

never will!

 

[Snyder21]

Would this be considered “informed discussion?” @Snyder21

We were talking about coaching decisions/strategies?

 

[Rabbuk]

Someone tell me what to think.

We under no circumstances can say anything remotely critical of coaches.

 

[atlantacyclone]

Well, on the bright side we can only get better this season.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I was wondering how long the “excited to see a team that puts out and tries really hard and hustles” narrative would last. About 41 minutes of actual game time.

 

[awd4cy]

No.. Oregon st picked 4th in conf by coaches

And that’s not even sniffing the bubble in the PAC 12

 

[stormchaser2014]

We under no circumstances can say anything remotely critical of coaches.

Fire Rhodes.

 

[Clonehomer]

My take is that this team has talent and will be much better as the season goes along.

Defense - need to work on team defense. We are lacking a wing player that can defense a tall shooter. It'll be a problem all season.

Offense - Haliburton needs to take over. He was passive in the first half and there wasn't anyone else that could consistently run the offense. He needs to be a star. The interior seems like they can be effective scorers, but they need to finish better than theyvddi tonight. Still am a big fan of the 2 PF lineup going forward

 

[RedDog]

I couldn't watch the game but after going through the box score I noticed our in-bound offense still is still weak. That's on the coaches.

 

[MeowingCows]

After watching it, we looked like a team with decent parts and pieces but not a lot of cohesion yet. Defensive rotations were poor and offense was very streaky, but at times very fast and very fluid.

I want to believe we will improve as the season goes on with chemistry and consistency. It looks like raw talent isn't the main issue.

 

[Cydwinder]

After watching it, we looked like a team with decent parts and pieces but not a lot of cohesion yet. Defensive rotations were poor and offense was very streaky, but at times very fast and very fluid.

I want to believe we will improve as the season goes on with chemistry and consistency. It looks like raw talent isn't the main issue.

We have a very young rotation this year so I’ll be most interested in seeing the development over the year. The team seems to have talent but needs some chemistry, especially on defense. This year might be a little rough but with good development we will have a solid foundation moving forward

 

[cygrads]

Didn't realize OSU returned all 5 starters and had an NBA guy return - considering we have many new pieces, only the second game of the season and a true road game I'm surprised anyone really thought we would win. Our learning curve is very steep right now and if we would have played this team after 7-8 games we probably win. Looking forward to see how this team develops.

 

[Mick Mars]

Again you get more out of this game long term than playing Alabama State at home

Or SIU-Edwardsville