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Agclone91

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They shut off once it hits a certain degree. Iowa ones are off too.
Okay that helps, so they aren’t “breaking down” they are operating as designed?
windmills shut down with some of these colder temps, as well as power lines that get iced over (Just like up here), but they have few people who know how to deal with it. Then with the windmills down, we are seeing a power shortage in the midwest to provide electricity for all of the heaters going.

Not sure what the temperature point would be for windmills to shut down, but I can confirm that every windmill in the wind farms between Jefferson and Ames were turning on my way home a little bit ago. It's around -7 now so if ours can run then the ones in Texas should be too, unless they are engineered differently (which is entirely possible).

I think the natural gas shortages may be a bigger issue. I saw today that Ford shut down their Kansas City plant for a week to conserve natural gas for heating purposes in the city.
 

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Not sure what the temperature point would be for windmills to shut down, but I can confirm that every windmill in the wind farms between Jefferson and Ames were turning on my way home a little bit ago. It's around -7 now so if ours can run then the ones in Texas should be too, unless they are engineered differently (which is entirely possible).

I think the natural gas shortages may be a bigger issue. I saw today that Ford shut down their Kansas City plant for a week to conserve natural gas for heating purposes in the city.

It is not so much the cold as ice accumulations on the blades.
 

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Not sure what the temperature point would be for windmills to shut down, but I can confirm that every windmill in the wind farms between Jefferson and Ames were turning on my way home a little bit ago. It's around -7 now so if ours can run then the ones in Texas should be too, unless they are engineered differently (which is entirely possible).

I think the natural gas shortages may be a bigger issue. I saw today that Ford shut down their Kansas City plant for a week to conserve natural gas for heating purposes in the city.
the ones up here all have built in component heaters, where as the ones in Texas do not, but they have extra cooling elements in them down there obviously.
 

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Not sure what the temperature point would be for windmills to shut down, but I can confirm that every windmill in the wind farms between Jefferson and Ames were turning on my way home a little bit ago. It's around -7 now so if ours can run then the ones in Texas should be too, unless they are engineered differently (which is entirely possible).

I think the natural gas shortages may be a bigger issue. I saw today that Ford shut down their Kansas City plant for a week to conserve natural gas for heating purposes in the city.

A few years ago when I lived in North Dakota I chatted with a meteorologist who worked in this field. Evidently, at least up there, they are good to go down to -20 Fahrenheit.
 
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motorcy90

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It is not so much the cold as ice accumulations on the blades.
in this case the ice build up is a byproduct of them not running due to the temps. if ours are running during a weather event the build up is minimal on the tower, but if they have been sitting due to low winds then the build up is worse and effects the towers productivity.
 

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I read wind and solar are actually producing more than planned, it seemd to be an issue with Natural Gas lines frozen?

Sounds like power was taken offline in Texas because winter doesn't have as much consumption as summer normally. (Obviously) I've heard issues were poor planning by power companies as they knew this was coming and did not really get excess capacity ready or up and going.
 

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in this case the ice build up is a byproduct of them not running due to the temps. if ours are running during a weather event the build up is minimal on the tower, but if they have been sitting due to low winds then the build up is worse and effects the towers productivity.

I can assure you that the weight and changes to the blades aerodynamics due to ice is appreciable no matter if they are running or not.
 

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From the "Structures and Mechanical Systems Hate This Weather" file, we have something weird going on with two windows in the finished portion of our basement in central Iowa. There is ice pushing out from between the foundation wall and window trim right at the edges of the window opening. Initial hunch is that it's condensation from the humidified furnace air freezing near the window? There is some ductwork within the drop ceiling a couple feet from this wall. I don't see it around the non finished windows elsewhere.

I've checked everywhere else, including at the base and under the carpet at this wall, and I don't see signs of water or moisture anywhere else in the basement. Thoughts?
 

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Chris did a podcast with Jon Miller last year, and Jon being in the energy field brought up EMP bombs and its pretty frightening learning about what could happen.
Forget EMP bombs. If you really want to freak yourself out look into the solar storm scenario. Imagine every transformer across much of the country getting fried and whole regions being without power for months or even years.
 

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Winter report form southern SW Missouri: -10 tonight, got about 5-6 inches snow last night/today. It will be 19 days of below freezing temps; supposed to maybe get above freezing here again this Friday.

Pretty good cold snap, colder than 30+ years or so.

KInd of reminds me when I lived in Southern Minnesota for a couple of years, almost (not quite though, haha).

We've been getting soft down here.
 

motorcy90

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I can assure you that the weight and changes to the blades aerodynamics due to ice is appreciable no matter if they are running or not.
not as much as you would think really. ours have had ice build up on them for the last month really with only a few faults from it, but we have had high enough winds during events that the shape of the build up doesn't have much effect on the towers or sheds off easily. it is when they are sitting during the events that the build up effects the towers the most. we can call ice on the blades just from hearing the towers run really.