***Official 2018-19 Transfer Thread***

Discussion in 'Mens Basketball' started by Messi, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    That Is the problem. He thought he was guaranteed a starting spot last season and he lost it do to injury.
     
  2. Sigmapolis

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    I think Prohm got himself behind the Eight Ball on that one.

    Weiler-Babb was clearly the best PG on the team.
    Haliburton was the most well-rounded player, and Shayok was the best scorer.
    Horton-Tucker was probably promised a starting spot during his recruitment.
    No way you are going to go 5/0 with Talen at the 5, are you?

    Wigginton was the odd man out.

    Even if he feels burned by the situation, unless Jackson or Leech comes in and is an absolute monster as a scorer next year, then no way Wigginton does not start.
     
  3. Doc

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    IMO, it was Haliburton v. Lindell for that starting spot and Prohm went with the player who was better for his team.
     
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  4. Cyclonepride

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    I think he handled it as well as he could. Two of his most talented players were playing with an eye toward their professional career. In the end, he just alternated them.
     
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  5. heitclone

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    I love Lindell and would welcome him back with open arms but the guys you listed are also much better defenders than him.
     
  6. Kurttr

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    Ok, now do the hypothetical situation where THT comes back because... or, how about Tucker wanted to come here but didn't like the lighting in Hilton...gotta love the abyss. The good thing is, this will all be known soon, so no vacuums/abysses to fill with completely random speculation.
     
  7. Sigmapolis

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    Agreed on all of this.

    A line-up with Shayok, Horton-Tucker, and Wigginton out there =

    not a lot of defense
    whollllllllllleeeeeeeeeeee lotta chuckin'

    Haliburton was better than him and deserved the starting spot.

    Wigginton should say "I need to get better -- to have a well-rounded game where I can score AND distribute AND play defense, like Haliburton can."

    Not pine for his spot back.
     
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  8. scottwv

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    I would have liked to see Halliburton's energy off the bench ... he would have been a great 6th man last season.
     
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  9. Statefan10

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    Lindell won 6 man of the year though.. And if there was someone who should not have been starting it probably should have been THT. He was unplayable at times.
     
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  10. Sigmapolis

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    In a perfect world, I think Wigginton earned it over Horton-Tucker.

    Reality is complicated, though, because --

    -- I think Prohm might have promised THT/Simeon a starting spot for him
    -- Horton-Tucker could be a monster or awful... sometimes it makes sense to see if you have the hot or not version going that night as early as possible
    -- if he is on, leave him out there, if not, then put in Wigginton for him
    -- Wigginton still played more minutes in the Big 12 than Talen did

    Taking Haliburton off the court just would have been a bad idea overall, though.
     
  11. scottwv

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    He was 6th man of the year....but I think starting mattered a lot to Lindell and he may have been better and more focused. Not sure Halliburton cared as much about starting and it would have been a different energy when he came in.

    FYI - not saying Prohm decision was wrong he obviously knows the team and game better than me...just something I thought would be interesting to see last season.
     
  12. Statefan10

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    I agree.. The situation was more complex than just flipping the two guys.
     
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  13. WIB

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    I mean does anyone have insider info on this. I thought the odds of LW coming back were less than 1%. Has anything changed that I've missed?
     
  14. Cyclonepride

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    It's all pure speculation, based on Lindell not getting invited to the big combine, and not performing particularly well in the G league combine (and the fact that the combination almost 100% means that he won't be getting drafted).
     
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  15. TheHelgo

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    Where did all this speculation about Prohm 'promising a starting spot to THT' come from? I honestly can't see Prohm making anyone a promise like that - its a recipe for problems. I can see him saying 'we envision such and such', but an outright promise - no way.

    Regarding LW, I am in the camp that cannot see him coming back no matter what. At this point, he would probably view himself as better off in the G-League or in Europe somewhere. Thankfully all of this (and the Bolton question) should be wrapped up in a week.
     
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  16. Knownothing

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    The great thing about Chicago kids. They usually are ballers. The bad thing, you have to cater to soooo many AAU, High School, Handlers, and all that nonsense in order to get players and future players. So you have to start THT if that is what was promised in order to get future players. THT deserved the start but man when he was off it was scary bad. When he was on (Illinois) he was Charles Barkley good.
     
  17. jbindm

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    I doubt an outright promise was made, but I suspect that when you recruit an area like that the implications are pretty clear that if you want to keep that talent pipeline open then those guys had better be in the starting lineup.
     
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  18. Sigmapolis

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    Right -- so let him start and then yank him if he is having a bad THT night.

    I remember Wigginton being in at the end of games far more often.

    Conference minutes
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    644 = Weiler-Babb
    583 = Haliburton
    578 = Shayok
    477 = Wigginton
    461 = Horton-Tucker
    422 = Jacobson
    201 = Lard

    Last four games...

    THT = 35, 25, 22, 15 (average of 24.25)
    Wigginton = 22, 29, 29, 29 (average of 27.25)

    Horton-Tucker played more in the Baylor game (when he had 21 and was 8/15 from the floor, including 3/6 from three) but after that... more Wigginton.

    You should care more about how much you play and if you finish games more than if you start them, or at least that is how I would approach them.
     
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  19. CyPunch

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    It seems like Lindell has more of that going on than Talen tbh...
     
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  20. Messi

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    6-4 184 lb guard

    Played 1.5 years at Indiana and .5 at Ok State

    This year for osu
    8.1 ppg 3.0 rpg 1.0 apg in 22 mpg. 36% from 3
     

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