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Pretty surprising cliffhanger to episode 3, but not mind blowing. I wonder if this was the “surprise cameo” they were talking about before?

I’m a little disappointed this series hasn’t generated nearly as much water cooler talk as WandaVision. There’s a lot of interesting things afoot, and I think it’s definitely entertaining. Maybe WandaVision has caused a lot of us to resist the urge to create fan theories.
The “surprise cameo” is purportedly in Episode 5.
 
My guess:

The super soldiers they fought aren't the bad guys but the people chasing them were and somehow the new Cap is in league with them. In the end Sam and Bucky will team up against the mystery people and new Cap. Idk maybe that's too obvious
The last episode just confirmed rather explosively that that group is indeed “bad guys”.

(yes, I’m caught up on the thread now) ;)

Edit, adding spoilery speculation:

What if Karli’s murderous action means that the current serum makes it’s recipients mentally unstable—and that Walker has it?

For that matter, we all assumed that the blood sample the scientist had to work with came from Isaiah.

But what it if came from Walker, and his blood work at MIT?
 
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Loki looks like it could be really good. Definitely lots of freedom to explore whatever.

Thoughts on Falcon and Winter Soldier. Enjoyable show but definitely more of just an action flick so far. The going to Madripoor sequence I thought was a little weird. If the bartender knew the guy well enough to know his favorite drink wouldn't he recognize that it isn't the right guy?? Plus Sam and Bucky have to be pretty famous people amongst criminals so you would think they would know that they are good guys?
 
Honestly, Zemo is the best thing about that show so far. If it weren't for him, I'd still watch, but it would be more like "I'll get to it sometime this week". That actor is so good. Totally underutilized in CAWS.
 
Honestly, Zemo is the best thing about that show so far. If it weren't for him, I'd still watch, but it would be more like "I'll get to it sometime this week". That actor is so good. Totally underutilized in CAWS.

Captain America: Winter Soldier? He was introduced in Civil War. Unless you mean he was underutilized in that he didn’t even show up in Winter Soldier then yes I completely agree.
 
Captain America: Winter Soldier? He was introduced in Civil War. Unless you mean he was underutilized in that he didn’t even show up in Winter Soldier then yes I completely agree.

Yeah, I meant Civil War. My bad!
 
Random thoughts for your Friday:

By delaying Black Widow until July, the domestic Box Office projections went from $45 million to $170 million.​

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Good new for movie theater fans:
Warner Media has announced that starting in 2022 their movies will launch exclusively in theaters before becoming available on a streaming platform. No plans for same-day launch in theaters and HBO Max.


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Sony Pictures has signed 5-year, +$1 billion deal with Netflix that will have Sony films appearing on Netflix starting in 2022. This is unlikely to include the 3 MCU Spider-Man films, at least initially, but will likely include Venom, Morbius, Venom: Let There Be Carnage, and Into the Spider-Verse sequel.

 
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Random thoughts for your Friday:

By delaying Black Widow until July, the domestic Box Office projections went from $45 million to $170 million.​

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Good new for movie theater fans:
Warner Media has announced that starting in 2022 their movies will launch exclusively in theaters before becoming available on a streaming platform. No plans for same-day launch in theaters and HBO Max.


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Sony Pictures has signed 5-year, +$1 billion deal with Netflix that will have Sony films appearing on Netflix starting in 2022. This is unlikely to include the 3 MCU Spider-Man films, at least initially, but will likely include Venom, Morbius, Venom: Let There Be Carnage, and Into the Spider-Verse sequel.


I'm not shocked at all by the Sony/Netflix news. I've been saying for a while now that those two need to partner up in this new streaming war landscape. Ultimately, while one of the smaller major movie studios, I've always believed Sony is just small enough, low enough on IP, and lacks the full integration of entertainment modes like TV networks to fully support their own streaming. Once you compare them to their major competitors, you realize how lacking they are:

-Disney+-Disney-ABC-ESPN-Hulu-Disney Channel-Disney Junior-FX-20th Century Fox-Pixar-Lucasfilm-Marvel Studios-Blu Sky Studios-National Geographic-Disney Theme Parks
-Peacock-Comcast-NBC-Universal Studios-NBC Sports-USA-Telemundo-Bravo-Scyfy-Golf Channel-E-CNBC-Universal Theme Parks-Comcast Sports
-HBO Max-AT&T-Direct TV-WB-HBO-New Line Cinema-TNT-TBS-CNN-CW-Cartoon Network-Cinemax-DC
-Paramount+-Viacom-Paramount Pictures-CBS-CBS Sports-Nickelodeon-BET-MTV-Showtime-CMT-VH1

Ultimately, Sony has Sony Pictures, Columbia Pictures, some Sony Television shows, and its Playstation video game console, but that is about it. Most of its valuable IP too is tied to Spider-Man, Jumanji, Ghostbusters and its video game properties. Those aren't a bad start, but not probably enough to populate their own streaming service, unless they find some creative ways to really leverage alongside their Playstation console, similar to what Amazon Prime does with Amazon.

There are other mid-tier studios like Lionsgate or MGM who are in the same predicament as Sony and might also benefit from a partnership with the likes of a Netflix, Amazon or Apple. We'll just have to see.

On the flip side, Netflix keeps losing outside IP on a daily basis as all these other platforms reclaim their IP, which is why they are frantically producing their own content at a breakneck pace. I'd argue it has been somewhat too much a focus on quantity over quality. However, popular IP takes a long time to build up, and they seem to be losing it quicker than they are gaining it. Its also why they are overpaying for things like Knives Out sequels. This is why also partnering with the likes of a Sony Pictures is a wise move in my mind. They need it just as much as Sony does.
 
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Loki looks like it could be really good. Definitely lots of freedom to explore whatever.

Thoughts on Falcon and Winter Soldier. Enjoyable show but definitely more of just an action flick so far. The going to Madripoor sequence I thought was a little weird. If the bartender knew the guy well enough to know his favorite drink wouldn't he recognize that it isn't the right guy?? Plus Sam and Bucky have to be pretty famous people amongst criminals so you would think they would know that they are good guys?

That's what I didn't get either. Sam even had a hard time taking the shot too. You would think it would be pretty obvious by his reactions that he is not Smiling Tiger, and the drink is not his usual favorite drink. I would also assume that by his fashion choices, Smiling Tiger would be a more boisterous, outspoken guy, not the quiet, stoic character Sam was portraying. He should have been figured out way sooner than he was.
 
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I'm not shocked at all by the Sony/Netflix news. I've been saying for a while now that those two need to partner up in this new streaming war landscape. Ultimately, while one of the smaller major movie studios, I've always believed Sony is just small enough, low enough on IP, and lacks the full integration of entertainment modes like TV networks to fully support their own streaming. Once you compare them to their major competitors, you realize how lacking they are:

-Disney+-Disney-ABC-ESPN-Hulu-Disney Channel-Disney Junior-FX-20th Century Fox-Pixar-Lucasfilm-Marvel Studios-Blu Sky Studios-National Geographic-Disney Theme Parks
-Peacock-Comcast-NBC-Universal Studios-NBC Sports-USA-Telemundo-Bravo-Scyfy-Golf Channel-E-CNBC-Universal Theme Parks-Comcast Sports
-HBO Max-AT&T-Direct TV-WB-HBO-New Line Cinema-TNT-TBS-CNN-CW-Cartoon Network-Cinemax-DC
-Paramount+-Viacom-Paramount Pictures-CBS-CBS Sports-Nickelodeon-BET-MTV-Showtime-CMT-VH1

Ultimately, Sony has Sony Pictures, Columbia Pictures, some Sony Television shows, and its Playstation video game console, but that is about it. Most of its valuable IP too is tied to Spider-Man, Jumanji, Ghostbusters and its video game properties. Those aren't a bad start, but not probably enough to populate their own streaming service, unless they find some creative ways to really leverage alongside their Playstation console, similar to what Amazon Prime does with Amazon.

There are other mid-tier studios like Lionsgate or MGM who are in the same predicament as Sony and might also benefit from a partnership with the likes of a Netflix, Amazon or Apple. We'll just have to see.

On the flip side, Netflix keeps losing outside IP on a daily basis as all these other platforms reclaim their IP, which is why they are frantically producing their own content at a breakneck pace. I'd argue it has been somewhat too much a focus on quantity over quality. However, popular IP takes a long time to build up, and they seem to be losing it quicker than they are gaining it. Its also why they are overpaying for things like Knives Out sequels. This is why also partnering with the likes of a Sony Pictures is a wise move in my mind. They need it just as much as Sony does.

That's really interesting. I would guess that there's a lot of consolidation yet to come. And, there's probably some money to be made by someone who comes up with a user-friendly portal for all of these streaming services. Right now, we have Youtube TV as our main viewing of traditional network/cable tv. But we also have Netflix, the Disney bundle with ESPN+ and Hulu, Amazon Prime, Paramount (because I was already paying for an ISU 24/7 subscription) and Apple+(free for one year with a new iphone). If you had some kind of guide that integrated all of your streaming subscriptions, that would be handy. Maybe it's already out there, but if it is, it isn't well known. If you had one place to go where you could see all the movies and shows that you had access to, that would be awesome.
 
That's really interesting. I would guess that there's a lot of consolidation yet to come. And, there's probably some money to be made by someone who comes up with a user-friendly portal for all of these streaming services. Right now, we have Youtube TV as our main viewing of traditional network/cable tv. But we also have Netflix, the Disney bundle with ESPN+ and Hulu, Amazon Prime, Paramount (because I was already paying for an ISU 24/7 subscription) and Apple+(free for one year with a new iphone). If you had some kind of guide that integrated all of your streaming subscriptions, that would be handy. Maybe it's already out there, but if it is, it isn't well known. If you had one place to go where you could see all the movies and shows that you had access to, that would be awesome.

Amazon Fire TV is close. Ask the remote to show you a movie and it will come up in whichever app that you subscribe to that has it.
 

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