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It’s not the look of the Jacobson that I don’t like. It’s that fact that it’s sitting where a fully functional NEZ should be.

)Yes, with accommodations for kid zones among the amenities)
I've always thought it looked small in the NEZ, but IMO they've addressed that some with this project. I don't think that it's going anywhere any time soon.

I still think that if they put some of their precast panels on the video board supports, it would tie the whole thing together a little more.
 

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I think they should put a big patio at the back of one of the grassy areas and get some grills going during the game. Maybe even offer some Busch Light and call it the Busch Light Beer Garden.
 
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I've always thought it looked small in the NEZ, but IMO they've addressed that some with this project. I don't think that it's going anywhere any time soon.

I still think that if they put some of their precast panels on the video board supports, it would tie the whole thing together a little more.
Lets be honest, for when it was built and when a lot of the initial improvements were made it probably seemed extravagant given the quality of teams we were fielding.

Now some of this stuff seems small and doesn't work, but I can remember people in the band being excited back in '03 that we had real bleachers in the south endzone that had solid floors and not something you'd find at a small high school or at the little league field where stuff could fall down through the open spots in the floor.
 

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I can remember people in the band being excited back in '03 that we had real bleachers in the south endzone that had solid floors and not something you'd find at a small high school or at the little league field where stuff could fall down through the open spots in the floor.
The scaffolding-style "bleachers" in the SEZ in the late '90s and early '00s were brutal on instruments. Boards flexed, something got bumped, and it was 10+ feet straight down to the asphalt.
 

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Now some of this stuff seems small and doesn't work, but I can remember people in the band being excited back in '03 that we had real bleachers in the south endzone that had solid floors and not something you'd find at a small high school or at the little league field where stuff could fall down through the open spots in the floor.
Note that in the article about Tom Kroeschell’s retirement, it’s mentioned that when he was first hired, the Sports Information Department was in a double-wide trailer next to the Olsen Building.

For six years.

Even better, they weren’t the only department using it.
 

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Note that in the article about Tom Kroeschell’s retirement, it’s mentioned that when he was first hired, the Sports Information Department was in a double-wide trailer next to the Olsen Building.

For six years.

Even better, they weren’t the only department using it.
But it was a double-wide! That's pretty fancy.
 
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You have to think, if we continue to have the success we're having, season ticket sales will continue to increase each season and you'll have to find more room for non season ticket holders...which would result in probably expanding the stadium again. I think 65k is a reasonable expectation in the next 5-10 years for Jack Trice.
 
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So... if the NEZ were to be fully completed, are we looking at 70k? 75K?

I don't think the Hillsides are counted as seats, currently.
 
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So... if the NEZ were to be fully completed, are we looking at 70k? 75K?

I don't think the Hillsides are counted as seats, currently.
depends on the type of seating you put...if you put bleacher style, you'll significantly increase the capacity...if you put chairbacks, less so
 

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The listed capacity starting in '07 was 55,000, but the stadium could hold more and did for a few games (dependent on the number of standing room/hillside tickets). After the SEZ project capacity has been listed at 61,500 and that seems to be a more firm number. So I'd say that project resulted in an increase in capacity of about 5,000 over the previous configuration including seating in the end zone and two hillsides. Because there are currently no end zone bleachers on the north other than the band, I would guess an identical project would increase capacity to around 70,000.
 
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Based on the Rebar sticking out of the top of the walls of the tunnel that were poured it appears that there will be a "lid" on the remainder of the tunnel.

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Or if they pour a concrete guardrail on top of those walls like what’s on top of the retaining wall, those rebar would be the attachment point.

If they do put a cover on it, the southeast corner of it will not be covered with dirt. Notice how high up the south tunnel wall is where it attaches to the retaining wall.
 
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Thanks so much for this incredible information. What is your opinion of the fiber enriched mix? For a garage slab, should I still use rebar? Or better yet, Gatorbar? And, finally, what recommendation would you have for the type of concrete for this little project, wild life likely walking on it over night and strong enough to hold 6 cords of wood, being my biggest concerns?
Fiber is good for control surface/shrinkage cracking (think small, spiderweb looking cracks). It doesn't add any real substantial tensile strength. If you do put in fiber, make sure they are synthetic and not steel.

I'd use rebar for a garage slab, especially if it's in an area that has had fill dirt placed. #4 @ 12" O.C. minimum would be my thought. I'd also go with a 6" slab. Any thinner and the rebar (assuming it's placed correctly on dobies with 2" of cover) is sitting in the middle of the slab and doesn't do anything for you.

Have never heard of gatorbar. I know the composite bars are starting to make an inroads but traditional steel rebar is just fine. Biggest thing is to make sure that its sitting on dobies or chair prior to placement. Don't let them try and get away with saying they'll hook it and pull it up. That's BS and doesn't work.

You should be fine with a 3-3.5 ksi mix (probably the plants standard house mix). As long as the concrete gets placed early in the day, it should be firm enough to resist wild life footprints by the end of the day. Fire wood is relatively light.
 

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