I think 4-2 would be a good result against those 3. I’m hoping for better.
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I think 4-2 would be a good result against those 3. I’m hoping for better.
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Two of the 3 are playing their first year under Prohm and in the Big XII. So it helps sure, but it’s hard to integrate guys from other systems to ours and in the toughest conference.
Yep, our schedule is easy compared to kansas still has to play ksu and tech twice, we have tech at home and some winnable road games, not saying well do it, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel
I will be disappointed if we don’t win. I think we are better than Kansas right now.
I think for the first time in a long time we are more talented that Kansas, but boy we continue to go through stretches during a game where we continue to force shots and forget to play defense. Our rebounding and lack of being able to hit foul shots are the difference between winning the conference or finishing second or third.
The best ISU teams could play a fast break style or just grind you if they needed too, this team just does not seem capable of just grinding it out at the end of a game. Getting the big rebound and then hit their foul shots, I hope I am wrong, but in the end, I think it will be our undoing.
The best ISU teams could play a fast break style or just grind you if they needed too, this team just does not seem capable of just grinding it out at the end of a game. Getting the big rebound and then hit their foul shots, I hope I am wrong, but in the end, I think it will be our undoing.
But at least those two guys are traditional transfers rather than grad transfers so they practiced in this system all last year. It isn't like playing in the games, but it helps.
You mean like how they grinded out a win at Texas Tech?
I think we are better than Kansas too. But we are a game behind, and we will need help, as well as taking care of our end. It's out of our hands, now.
I like to think its all in our hands now, like I said, our schedule is easier than tech, ksu, and Kansas down the stretch, they will beat each other up, just keep winning and well be right there
I don’t care so much about winning the Big 12 because I know that it is a really hard thing to do (unless you are KU). I also think it could be a bad thing if we put too much emphasis on it. I just want us to focus on improving each game and be playing well come March. I think we could be a scary team in the NCAAs.
Great point, as that game was the definition of a grind it out game. Margin was never safe. Our lead was 7 points or under for the last 12 minutes.
At KSU is the only game remaining I’m chalking up as a loss. I don’t think we’ll end up winning the rest of the games, but @KSU I think is the hardest. Texas and OU are not that great and I think for the most part play in to our strengths. And maybe I should be more worried about TCU than I am, but for whatever reason, I’m just not.
The problem with winning the league is a lot of teams in the conference mentally collapse against KU. The bad 6 minute stretch we had in Lawrence seems to happen to good teams all the time against the Jayhawks. After WVU I have no faith in the rest of the conference not rolling over to the Jayhawks.
Definitely the most likely loss, though I'm not chalking it up that way just yet. We just didn't play that well in the first game, and they did exactly what they do. It's going to be a little harder with Wade at full strength, but we can do it.
Texas is a team that can rise up out of nowhere due to their sheer talent. That's the scary part about them. Got to keep Roach under control.
OU is a team that can reel off 15 points in a row on you, but they're also one that can make it easy for you too. Just have to be calm and patient in those games, and I think our superiority wins out.
TCU is an odd team. Some very, very good pieces there, but they're not quite putting it together yet.
That is one example when we did, great win. Now tell me how we grinded it out against Baylor and K State. You look at the box scores and you keep seeing one stat that comes up over and over, that we are poor at and its rebounding. Against Baylor we gave up 10 offensive rebound to getting four. In the Iowa game we were out rebounded 44 to 24, in the K State game 39 to 31. In our five losses we were out rebounded in four of them.
Yesterday we had two times were we gave up 2 offensive rebounds in the same series, each time Ole Miss scored. When you shoot 69% you do not have many offensive rebounds but we still gave up 10 more than we got on the offensive side, overall we did out rebound Ole Miss. by 6 on the strength of our defensive rebounding which was 29 to 13.
Right now we are 15-5 and 4-3 in the league, but we all think we really should be 6-1 with our only loss on the road to Kansas. We gave away 2 games we should have won against Baylor and K State.
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If we go 15-3 in conference like that, we are probably Big 12 champions and at least a #3 seed in the tournament, maybe even a #2 with a good showing in KC.
It all depends on whether or not KU gets Silvio DeSousa back this season. If he returns then KU will be tough to beat. If he doesn't then KU is much more vulnerable.
