Iowa State Transfer Tracker 2025

CYedUp

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And honestly we can bring in so many people that are already better then the ones entering the portal. I don't think fish or rock would have ever been ready to put in major minutes.
 

Drew0311

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And honestly we can bring in so many people that are already better then the ones entering the portal. I don't think fish or rock would have ever been ready to put in major minutes.


I totally agree. I also think this is the first Freshman class that TJ has recruited that has multiple guys that will get playing time and are college ready. Seems like since he came back he has struggled to recruit good freshman recruits. Tyrese I guess but he was a Prohm recruit that TJ kept. Other than that I guess Lipsey is the stand out.
 

isufbcurt

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Playing devil's advocate, Blum DID recently say if we can get through these next 3-ish months, things should calm down at least a little. There will still be outside NIL after universities start the rev share thing, but hopefully it won't be quite as wild wild west as the past couple years have been?

I'm far from an optimist, but still holding on a little sliver of hope the sport isn't completely ruined. Saw somewhere there were 500+ players that entered the portal within the first 24 hours, crazy.

I don't see how the schools paying the players instead of the collectives is going to slow things down. It's just transferring the "who is paying".
 

NENick

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Other than Cooper Flagg, who is a generational talent, great teams don’t play kids straight out of HS.

If I’m a 4 star recruit or lower, I’m going to the best school outside the power 5 conferences for a year or two to show my skill with the intent to transfer to a bigger program after. I feel for guys like Nojus, who pre-NIL and transfer era would’ve been a damn homerun.

It's not a huge number, but there are freshmen playing significant roles on good teams around the country. Not all are projected one & dones/lottery picks, although I'm sure most were highly recruited.
I totally agree. I also think this is the first Freshman class that TJ has recruited that has multiple guys that will get playing time and are college ready. Seems like since he came back he has struggled to recruit good freshman recruits. Tyrese I guess but he was a Prohm recruit that TJ kept. Other than that I guess Lipsey is the stand out.
Milan?
 

cyfan92

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Getting Heise to build off his March performance for the full 2025/26 season will REALLY help the team. If Tamin is managed better, Heise performs in-line with recent performances, plus another off-season of development for Jefferson and Milan.. That means we don't have to hit a homerun on a $2M guard to replace CuJo.

Centers will be replaced fairly easily IMO, There was basically no difference between Chatfield and Jackson over a large sample size. Land Cluff and another more athletic 5 and there is likely upside versus this past years center position. Plus we need Jefferson to play 1/3 of his minutes at the 5 for floor spacing.
 

Drew0311

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It's not a huge number, but there are freshmen playing significant roles on good teams around the country. Not all are projected one & dones/lottery picks, although I'm sure most were highly recruited.

Milan?

Yep forgot Milan somehow. So Milan, Tamin, and Tyrese
 

syclonefan

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Kind of wonder if any end up at Cleveland State with the Robinson connection. Worked for Enaruna. Think D Watson could flourish in that league.
UNI is also a potential landing spot for Rock, Fish, and Watson. They just lost their 6’11’’ post and All-Valley forward, plus the connection with coach Green and Crawford.

Drake and Bradley also make a lot of sense with those two teams losing a lot of players to a coaching change at DU and a bunch of seniors at BU.
 

Cyclonepride

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Are these recruiting sites even putting out any effort anymore?

If Nojus leaves that's 3 of the top 12 recruits in the modern area leaving within a year. None of them looked anywhere close to being able to contribute as freshman and what I've seen of Rock and Bielew this year they don't look close anytime soon either.

Just seems like really bad projections.
Iowa State has been positively stable in comparison to most other programs.
 

CloneIce

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Other than Cooper Flagg, who is a generational talent, great teams don’t play kids straight out of HS.

If I’m a 4 star recruit or lower, I’m going to the best school outside the power 5 conferences for a year or two to show my skill with the intent to transfer to a bigger program after. I feel for guys like Nojus, who pre-NIL and transfer era would’ve been a damn homerun.
Regardless of era - On any good team with upper classmen guards, he likely would have been on the bench leaning as a freshman. And he likely would have played on a bad team, regardless of era.

I think people are confusing the NIL era with ISU basketball eras. Average freshmen played for ISU when McDermott, Morgan, and Prohm were our coach. TJs teams are better.
 

Tailg8er

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I don't see how the schools paying the players instead of the collectives is going to slow things down. It's just transferring the "who is paying".

Yeah, I don't know how/why either. I just figured if the head of our collective is thinking that, there is likely some weight to it. Not sure if there are other regulations going into place with that revenue share piece, or if there's some other reason? Like I said, hoping that's the case!
 

SolterraCyclone

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I don't see how the schools paying the players instead of the collectives is going to slow things down. It's just transferring the "who is paying".
In theory, it should be better in that there is the $23M annual salary cap to athletes and a 3rd party to monitor that NIL deals are legit.

The settlement is contingent on the NCAA getting antitrust exemption I believe, so there’s still some obstacles. Also, in practice, this system can be abused as much as the old one I’m sure.
 

MuskMisk

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Hopefully the staff can work to bring Rock back. Seeing the size change from early RS to this year shows how much he grew. Working against Jackson and Chatfeld should have helped. I think he will be great over the next few years.

Was also hoping to see Watson worked in more with some of the injuries this year, guess he wasn’t what the coaching staff wanted.

This is the most intriguing and suckiest part of the year. Watching a tournament that you want to be pushing further in but not, seeing players you got to see develop leave and bringing in new players to give that sweet, sweet hopium (before needing the copium).
 

Tailg8er

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Fingers cross here as well (my stress level could use it)! If we can get through the next three months, I do think more rules will be put in place by the time the portal opens next year. This is hopefully the last of the true wild, Wild West. If you've ever been on the fence, now is the time to help. All gifts are matched for the entire month. Thank you all.

I don't see how the schools paying the players instead of the collectives is going to slow things down. It's just transferring the "who is paying".

This is the post from Brent that I was referring to, FWIW. It was in the NIL Budgets thread from last week.
 

cymac2408

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I hope not. We lack length and athleticism.

Houston and tt have done a good job of utilizing raw not very skill bigs with length and athleticism that play their asses off. That’s what we need at 5.

Pretty similar to what we had with ward or even McKay.
Or the best ever Kelvin Cato. No offensive fireworks but opposing teams entered the paint at their own risk.
 

Malty Flannel

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Hopefully the staff can work to bring Rock back. Seeing the size change from early RS to this year shows how much he grew. Working against Jackson and Chatfeld should have helped. I think he will be great over the next few years.
Rock is the biggest loss so far I think. I understand coaches not wanting to take up a scholly with a development piece and players not wanting to sit on the bench for multiple years, but 7' guys with a bit of ball skill don't grow on trees. Assuming we add Cluff, we still have zero depth at the 5 spot. I have trouble thinking we will find a backup center in the portal that will be better than a 7-footer going on year 3 in the program
 

Drew0311

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Or the best ever Kelvin Cato. No offensive fireworks but opposing teams entered the paint at their own risk.


Kelvin Cato is Keshon Gilberts worst nightmare. The way college kids drive to the hole these days. WIth Cato they could have ran a promottion that if you are in the stands and you catch a Cato blocked ball you get to keep it. Many people would go home with basketballs these days.
 

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