At least end it for a few years and then maybe make it a 2-1 three year deal. We don’t gain anything from that game with where Iowa’s RPI is usually at.
Hy-Vee Big 4 Classic Ending
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At least end it for a few years and then maybe make it a 2-1 three year deal. We don’t gain anything from that game with where Iowa’s RPI is usually at.
10-2 in this neutral setup but both had horrible recent records @UNI including some very atrociously officiated games for both. I'm including the pre-Jacobsen era when UNI sucked. I went to a game there in '98 (Fizer's freshman year) and halftime fouls were 13-1 in UNI's favor. That's not something built to last in today's college sports environment.
Fran was blindsided with how lopsided and obviously bad the calls were against Iowa his first trip to UNI. That's what got the entire neutral site thing started in the first place and I can't really disagree with his reaction. You have to just live with that @KU and @MSU but not @MVC if you're a Big Ten or Big 12 school.
I looked at scheduling for some comparable situations not that long ago, specifically OU, OKSt, KSU, and KU playing Oral Roberts, Tulsa and WSU. It worked out about 4:1 or 3:1 overall with those 4 Big 12 schools playing ORU, Tulsa and WSU. They do play there once or twice a decade, but it's nothing near the 1:1 our in state series was for decades.
Just for the team to get used to it prior to conference games. Obviously we do play at Carver every other year, but we don't play many games in competitor's home court otherwise. And now that the SEC games have moved to January, we lose another opportunity to get that experience prior to conference games.
With holiday tournaments I'm fine with not having any more road games than we need. Need to get wins in the non conference. Ideally you have the holiday tournament, Iowa or even better find a better team to replace them, SEC challenge and a home and home with a solid program and fill the rest with cupcakes
Fun Fact: For the entirety of the series the officials were assigned by the Big Ten/Big 12 respectively. So, by this logic, the Big Ten and Big 12 sent officials into Cedar Falls to screw their own league teams. Also, the Valley uses the exact same pool of officials that the Big 12 uses, they are in an officiating consortium together.
As far as the Fran game, Fran walked into that building that night with the goal of getting run. Our seats are 4 rows behind the visitor bench and some of the things coming out of his mouth that evening were just flat disgusting. He acted like a petulant child from the moment he walked out and was tossed by a guy that has done something like 8 Final Fours after giving Fran every opportuinity to change his behavior.
Everybody thinks their team is getting screwed.
1.) IMO the biggest issue is that somebody has to play Drake. Since the inception of the Big 4 Drake has been terrible. If both games were expected to be competitive I think you would have more butts in seats for both games.
2.) I disagree with this. Des Moines is 100% a college town. Again IMO Drake is the main issue. They just don't move the needle enough for certain fans to justify the ticket price.
I know this. It was still an environment where you got homered even back when UNI really sucked before the great run they've had recently. You aren't very familiar with ISU basketball if you think Big 12 hired officials won't screw over ISU.
Power 5 teams don't sign up for that in a 1:1 situation. Just reality you need to accept.
Look at the KSU/KU/OU/OSU scheduling vs ORU/WSU/Tulsa over the past two decades. That's more the norm. 1:1 was a pretty big anomaly nationally.
He was ridiculous but the officiating was comically one sided. Not caring for Fran I was enjoying it but no impartial party could have called that an evenly officiated game.
P5 teams don't sign up for that every other year at mid major conference gyms in the modern era. Fran probably couldn't believe they were stuck in that deal being from outside the state. Prohm probably would have been shocked ISU had a 1:1 with Drake until recently if you asked him privately.
Just that night?
And fair is relative. We can do whatever we want and it is fair to us.
We should never play mizzou in anything! Still mad about the BB games scheduled.
I'd love to see this replaced with a yearly series with Mizzou or Nebraska. The whining period over conference realignment has passed, it's time to start bringing back those long lasting regional series that people actually want to see.
A Big East/B12 challenge is practically a done deal in the next couple of years. If the end result is that replaces the Big 4 classic it will be an upgrade. More interest from the public, resume builder and likely a ESPN/FoxSports programming.
How about the Goofers? There are a lot of Cyclones up here that will do all we can to turn The Barn into Hilton North. Amirite, @BoxsterCy, @jcyclonee, @cyrocksmypants, etc.?
About the only thing worse was the game a few years ago in CF produced by UNI that looked like they used army surplus cameras from the last nuclear blast test in Nevada.
Called Paul Janssen a "Hillbilly P****"
Called Devyn Marble a "MF'ing Mama's Boy"
Told John Higgins to go back to the Big 12 where somebody can stand 'Your MF'ing P**** A**"
